Hi All
here's my[color=orange]'ginger'[/color]!! :D 1956 Oval Convertible project.
came as a shell with the original hoodframe
as you can see it needs a bit of sand down, but it is only surface,was paint stripped and left in the elements by a previous owner! and is one of the most solid bugs i have seen in 20 years of bugging!...heater channels strenghtheners, rear h valance and inner wings are all solid!..
needs some minimal welding and panel reparwork but nothing drastic!
unfortunately lost its original pan, but i have a semi restored 62 pre suffix reg pan to put it on, and an original 30 horse 56 engine to fit.
anyway watch this space for progress pics!
adam
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Posted by: THEBOFFIN - 30 May 2008 23:17:16
Hey all
check this link to this superbly restored original numbers, 1957 cabrio in the states!..great pics..enjoy!
https://www.nevintage.com/1957vert.htm
cheers
adam
Posted by: THEBOFFIN - 30 May 2008 23:17:56
now i'm back on resto duties!, here are a few more pics,
shell has a bit more rust in the sill strengtheners than i thought but nothing i can't handle!
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cleaned up
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same on the other side,
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some better views of the other areas, now she's on her side!
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also here's the rear quarter, which has been butchered by someone previously, i guess in order repair the creases and 'holes' in the rear quarter, caused apparently by buckshot when it was used for target practice while in the states!
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but i have a complete rear quarter to replace it with!.(thanks VWRobert!)
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and picked up some nice early doors too!(thanks again VWRobert!)
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keep watching, more pics and fnally some progress to come!
Posted by: THEBOFFIN - 30 May 2008 23:19:14
Hi
quick update, finished cleaning rust off of scuttle/windscreen area, all by hand with mixture of hammerite rust remover wire brush, wire wool, course grade emery paper and a lot of elbow grease!!..big job and busy with work at the moment!..anyway here are a couple of pics of some the bare areas.,
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Posted by: THEBOFFIN - 30 May 2008 23:20:16
Finally my genuine original rear oval vert rear window has arrived from the states in one piece!..in amazing condition for a 53 year old window!...needs new wood and rubber, but frame, glass and chrome strip is in amazing condition! :D
real lucky find...except for the price :shock: ...well chuffed!..a long way off fitting it yet though!! :lol:
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Posted by: THEBOFFIN - 30 May 2008 23:21:09
pushed the vert out of the garage for a few pics...
:D :shock:
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Posted by: THEBOFFIN - 30 May 2008 23:23:01
cleaned back windscreen and scuttle completely now,just a little bit of rust in the groves to remove, then just needs priming!
:D
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also paint stripped dash and sanded off, original colour looks to have been inca red.. under the bright red primer..
before..
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...after
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Posted by: THEBOFFIN - 30 May 2008 23:23:57
just got round to priming windscreen and dash after rust removal! :D
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Lots of drilled holes under the dash! :shock: ...can anyone tell me which are the correct factory ones?...as i need to weld the rest up!
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Posted by: pre67vw - 31 May 2008 00:12:49
Nice work, keep us updated!! 8)
Posted by: Etzhold1 - 31 May 2008 07:14:46
Nice work, keep us updated!!
one thing, I would remove these ! you will be surprised how it looks underneath, probebly surface rust, but if your car is painted these are the spots where it start showing rust after a few years !
Regards
Guido [ATTACH]1259[/Attach]
Posted by: THEBOFFIN - 01 June 2008 14:13:12
more pics, front qtr panels cleaned back and primed
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correct repro 4 finger front panel to replace two finger 67 one currently fitted...will be removing this carefully and putting it up for sale, if anyone needs a genuine solid vw one let me know!
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still unsure on colour...removed dash brace...still in original colour!...can anyone confirm if it's inca red??..looks like it make have a metalic fleck in it??..i thought it was a solid colour...can anyone confirm?
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Posted by: Chris - 01 June 2008 17:53:31
Nice work :wink:
Just one thing / question:-
The floorpan is RHD but has a LHD dash. Are you going to put a new dash in and convert it or do you have a LHD floorpan for it ?
Just being curious, (nosey :roll: )
Chris
Posted by: THEBOFFIN - 02 June 2008 18:49:42
Hi
i did have a RHD oval dash...but decided to keep it as original as i can LHD, so i'm modifying the pan to LHD...much easier than a dash cut too! :D
Posted by: heb623 - 02 June 2008 19:18:00
When you like the perfect chassis for your car contact Eztzhold1!
He stil has a 1956 powdercoated chassis forr sale! :wink:
:twisted: ET
Posted by: THEBOFFIN - 02 June 2008 20:09:41
[quote="heb623"]When you like the perfect chassis for your car contact Eztzhold1!
He stil has a 1956 powdercoated chassis forr sale! :wink:
:twisted: ET
[/quote]
saloon or cabrio one??!!
Posted by: '50 Karmann - 02 June 2008 20:53:43
[quote="THEBOFFIN"]
saloon or cabrio one??!![/quote]
They are the same thing! Aren't they
As far as a fifty goes the floor pan is no different,don't know too much about those modern cars 'tho. But i think you wiil find Guido's chassis will be ideal.
Posted by: heb623 - 02 June 2008 21:24:35
That makes no difference for a cabrio out of 1956! [-X [-X
Chassisnumbers with the digits 15 in front are only used starting 1965!!!
So you must have a 6 digit chassis!
:twisted: ET
Posted by: '50 Karmann - 02 June 2008 21:35:30
Thanks for confirming that ET
I was sure they were the same.
But it's one of those open your mouth and put your foot in it, moments.
Posted by: heb623 - 02 June 2008 21:44:44
Thank you very much George I am glad I could be of any assistance! :lol:
Btw can you send me a pic of yourself?
I know who you are but I can't put a face to it! :oops: :oops:
Alsways there to help!
:twisted: ET (the friendly one)
Posted by: '50 Karmann - 02 June 2008 21:55:27
I'm a shy sort of guy ET and always avoid the photographs. :lol: .
But try to see August '06 Volksworld.Ivan would not let me get away with it.
I'm picture with my car 8) sort of ------- Beauty and the Beast.
Posted by: heb623 - 02 June 2008 22:19:00
The car isn't the beast and you are not the beauty? [-X [-X
So you mean to say you're .... Animal? :lol:
:twisted: ET
Posted by: '50 Karmann - 02 June 2008 22:30:04
Yeah! I am the beast.
You will know when you see me.
ET will say "i have seen that man about for many years."
Posted by: heb623 - 02 June 2008 22:54:30
Can't wait to see you!! :lol:
:twisted: ET
But where? :shock:
Posted by: THEBOFFIN - 02 June 2008 22:56:27
[quote="heb623"]That makes no difference for a cabrio out of 1956! [-X [-X
Chassisnumbers with the digits 15 in front are only used starting 1965!!!
So you must have a 6 digit chassis!
:twisted: ET[/quote]
Hmm..i thought they type 151 on chassis ID plate with seven digits not six stampted into the pan begining with 1????
Posted by: pre67vw - 03 June 2008 10:27:06
[quote="'50 Karmann"]
They are the same thing! Aren't they
As far as a fifty goes the floor pan is no different,don't know too much about those modern cars 'tho. But i think you wiil find Guido's chassis will be ideal.[/quote]
What about the jacking points?
Posted by: JD - 03 June 2008 10:33:02
[quote="pre67vw"][quote="'50 Karmann"]
They are the same thing! Aren't they
As far as a fifty goes the floor pan is no different,don't know too much about those modern cars 'tho. But i think you wiil find Guido's chassis will be ideal.[/quote]
What about the jacking points?[/quote]
Bolster chisel! :twisted:
Posted by: pre67vw - 03 June 2008 10:35:42
[quote="JD"][quote="pre67vw"][quote="'50 Karmann"]
They are the same thing! Aren't they
As far as a fifty goes the floor pan is no different,don't know too much about those modern cars 'tho. But i think you wiil find Guido's chassis will be ideal.[/quote]
What about the jacking points?[/quote]
Bolster chisel! :twisted: [/quote]
But then it'll ruin the nice powder coating :wink:
Posted by: heb623 - 03 June 2008 14:39:49
To Rob,
Ofcourse not everybody is stupid and will remove the jacking points before powder coating!! :lol:
:twisted: ET
Posted by: pre67vw - 03 June 2008 15:17:13
[quote="heb623"]To Rob,
Ofcourse not everybody is stupid and will remove the jacking points before powder coating!! :lol:
:twisted: ET[/quote]
So there's not much point selling him a powder coated floorpan with jacking points on is there... :?
Posted by: heb623 - 03 June 2008 15:30:27
:roll: :roll: :roll: [-X
:twisted: ET
Posted by: THEBOFFIN - 11 June 2008 19:20:01
hi
can anyone confirm the paint mix for Inca Red and wether it is metalic or not??
thanks
adam
Posted by: '50 Karmann - 11 June 2008 20:30:36
Paint code for Inca Red is L258.
Searched on the Glasurit(supplier to vw)website,no record.That's going to be tough, finding the formula.
The inside of your glovebox lid does it still have original paint. :?:
If so,you may be better off going from a scan of that.
No record of formula on the samba either.
Have only ever seen pictures of one other car painted Inca Red,like yours a mid '50's Karmann.
It's a beautiful colour and well worth you finding the mix.I do believe it is metallic also.
Just found further info confirmimg colour is defo metallic
Posted by: pre67vw - 11 June 2008 23:04:27
L258 Inca red (Metallic) [ATTACH]1751[/Attach]
Posted by: THEBOFFIN - 12 June 2008 09:04:59
[quote="'50 Karmann"]Paint code for Inca Red is L258.
Searched on the Glasurit(supplier to vw)website,no record.That's going to be tough, finding the formula.
The inside of your glovebox lid does it still have original paint. :?:
If so,you may be better off going from a scan of that.
No record of formula on the samba either.
Have only ever seen pictures of one other car painted Inca Red,like yours a mid '50's Karmann.
It's a beautiful colour and well worth you finding the mix.I do believe it is metallic also.
Just found further info confirmimg colour is defo metallic [/quote]
Cheers
thats what i thought..metalic!...nice colour!...original glovebox was not with the car...only dash strut brace with original paint..which is good enough for a scan...i hope!....my local paint supplier can not find the mix match either, so i'll take in the strut and see what he can do!
cheers
adam
Posted by: THEBOFFIN - 12 June 2008 22:44:13
[quote="THEBOFFIN"][quote="'50 Karmann"]Paint code for Inca Red is L258.
Searched on the Glasurit(supplier to vw)website,no record.That's going to be tough, finding the formula.
The inside of your glovebox lid does it still have original paint. :?:
If so,you may be better off going from a scan of that.
No record of formula on the samba either.
Have only ever seen pictures of one other car painted Inca Red,like yours a mid '50's Karmann.
It's a beautiful colour and well worth you finding the mix.I do believe it is metallic also.
Just found further info confirmimg colour is defo metallic [/quote]
Cheers
thats what i thought..metalic!...nice colour!...original glovebox was not with the car...only dash strut brace with original paint..which is good enough for a scan...i hope!....my local paint supplier can not find the mix match either, so i'll take in the strut and see what he can do!
cheers
adam[/quote]
ufortunately my local paint man can't mix it!...does anyone know of anyone who can?
Posted by: Etzhold1 - 13 June 2008 06:17:51
Hi Adam,
If we have a sample , We can make the paint for you !
price is 95 euro/liter ! the only problem is, that we are in Belgium !
Regards,
Guido
Posted by: vintagevw - 15 June 2008 10:18:25
Maybe this colour?
From a 1957 convertible. [ATTACH]1817[/Attach] [ATTACH]1818[/Attach]
Posted by: THEBOFFIN - 16 June 2008 21:22:39
[quote=Etzhold1]Hi Adam,
If we have a sample , We can make the paint for you !
price is 95 euro/liter ! the only problem is, that we are in Belgium !
Regards,
Guido[/quote]
Thanks Guido
do you have a sample???..and if we could sort it are you coming over to Lavenham for the show...and if so ould you bring it??
thanks
adam
Posted by: THEBOFFIN - 05 July 2008 13:32:56
Hi All
more progress pics
working on rubbing down the rear end of the car, note that a lot of the original factory lead loading has been removed by the previous owner unfortunately, but it does show the original Karmann factory spot weld joints!
their is more patchwork welding to the rear than id originaly thought...i suspect there might have been some rear end damage at some point as the rear H valance has been grafted in and bits of the engine bay and rear bumper mount has been replaced, but with original panels cut from other cars!
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Butchered rear Quarter panel inside!
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welde up bullet holes below!!
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Posted by: THEBOFFIN - 20 September 2008 12:15:44
hi Andi!
bought my apron from a company in the uk called autocraft...check out this
link
https://www.autocrafteng.co.uk/
not the cheapest but nicely made front panel!
good luck with your resto!
cheers
adam
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 9:40 AM
Subject: repro front apron
hello, i have read your restoration story of your vert,
can you tell me where i get these front panel / apron with the correct form
like orignial like yours in the topic?, or who does produce it?
thanks an dbest regards Andi / www.oval56.de
Posted by: GKL 7 - 20 September 2008 13:39:20
Has the car had a rear end clip?
Some of the joints on the rear quarters and to each side of the engine bay opening do not look Karmann.
Posted by: vintagevw - 29 September 2008 18:20:40
[quote=vintagevw]Maybe this colour?
From a 1957 convertible.[/quote]
Yes, Inca red! [ATTACH]2031[/Attach] [ATTACH]2032[/Attach] [ATTACH]2033[/Attach]
Posted by: vintagevw - 29 September 2008 18:23:54
The other metallic coulours are also for a vert:
L232 Iris Blue
L316 Mandel green
L329 Shetland grey
L374 Sepia silver
Posted by: THEBOFFIN - 23 November 2008 11:32:50
[quote='50 Karmann]Has the car had a rear end clip?
Some of the joints on the rear quarters and to each side of the engine bay opening do not look Karmann.[/quote]
yep only had one side partially repaired/clip!...bid of a mess..lost a lot of it's original lead loading!
Posted by: THEBOFFIN - 23 November 2008 11:34:39
[quote=vintagevw]The other metallic coulours are also for a vert:
L232 Iris Blue
L316 Mandel green
L329 Shetland grey
L374 Sepia silver
[/quote]
Thanks Pascal
getting it mixed here is a real problem, they all tell me it can't be mixed and more because they all use water based paints now?!
Posted by: vintagevw - 09 December 2008 08:19:19
If you need roofrubbers.....
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=706468
Posted by: THEBOFFIN - 24 March 2009 23:04:43
[quote=vintagevw]If you need roofrubbers.....
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=706468[/quote]
Thanks Pascal
will take a look
due to redundancy end of last year i have not done any work on the car, but back in work now so pushing on with the car for next summer now, keep eatching this page for future updates!
Posted by: vintagevw - 28 March 2009 19:50:03
[quote=THEBOFFIN]
Thanks Pascal
getting it mixed here is a real problem, they all tell me it can't be mixed and more because they all use water based paints now?![/quote]
We also use water based paint now but the colour would be very very close if you hva a sample of it....
But it needs to be a sample who didn't see much sun...
Otherwise you will have a discoloured colour :wink:
Posted by: THEBOFFIN - 07 April 2009 21:13:44
[quote=vintagevw]
We also use water based paint now but the colour would be very very close if you hva a sample of it....
But it needs to be a sample who didn't see much sun...
Otherwise you will have a discoloured colour :wink: [/quote]
hi pascal
i have the original dash strut /brace that has perfect original paint..could you match that?
heres a pic,
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cheers
adam
Posted by: THEBOFFIN - 17 March 2010 18:50:01
Hey Pascal
any luck on getting my Inca Red mixed over there from my original colour strut brace?
thanks
adam
Posted by: GKL 7 - 17 March 2010 19:29:06
Inca Red rocks.:wink:
Posted by: THEBOFFIN - 13 April 2010 12:55:53
Hi all
come to a bit of a crossroads with my vert due to a lack of time,funds and that my enthusiasm seems to have disapeared, I'm unsure wether to complete or sell my car!, i pulled it out of the garage last week and loose fitted all the panels to see wether that would renew my entusiasm... see pics below...Still undecided .... Off on holiday for a week so will have a think and make a decision when I come back .. Any idea what it's worth ?... I've got 90% of parts with it... Sitting on restored pre suffix 1962 pan with current v5
cheers
Adam
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Posted by: pre67vw - 13 April 2010 16:32:47
I'll give you a couple of grand for it...
Posted by: JD - 13 April 2010 17:49:29
[quote=pre67vw]I'll give you a couple of grand for it... [/quote]
Don´t give up your dream of finding a 412 Rob!
Posted by: pre67vw - 13 April 2010 18:07:53
[quote=JD]
Don´t give up your dream of finding a 412 Rob![/quote]
An oval cab would do until a nice 412 comes up though :lol:
Posted by: THEBOFFIN - 12 July 2010 14:08:42
Hi
After a lot of thinking this weekend and the fact that i'd miss the old girl and kick myself for not finishing the restoration, not to mention the many years and money I've spent obtaining the rare parts, i've decided to cancel the eBay auction and keep her.
keep watching, fired up to finish her now!
Posted by: 55Kab - 12 July 2010 17:48:06
At last...get to it :!:
Posted by: lee ivatt - 15 July 2010 08:22:13
[quote=THEBOFFIN]Hi
After a lot of thinking this weekend and the fact that i'd miss the old girl and kick myself for not finishing the restoration, not to mention the many years and money I've spent obtaining the rare parts, i've decided to cancel the eBay auction and keep her.
keep watching, fired up to finish her now!
[/quote]
I cant blame you mate, will be a lovley car when done.
Thanks for your time when we spoke last week, you sold the car very well.lol. Id even begun searching for spares.
Will be keeping a close eye on this one.8)
Posted by: THEBOFFIN - 20 July 2010 11:50:21
Cheers Lee
No problem....getting the shell shotblasted and primed the first/second week of august, after which i'll start cutting back and repairing the shell as necessary.
I also sold my VR6 to keep me focused on the oval...no watercooled distractions!
watch this space!
Posted by: Standard split - 21 July 2010 21:28:59
[quote=pre67vw]An oval cab would do until a nice 412 comes up though :lol: [/quote]
Whatever happened to the dream Heb, its a challenge – you've given up too easily:roll:
A 412:?:
Wassat, can't be a 'vintage' car :?:
One passes my house every 10 mins, goes to Tottenham:?
Posted by: THEBOFFIN - 02 September 2010 23:09:32
sorry its gone a bit quiet!, due to problems with my daily driver(s!)....been through 4 cars in the last month all with major problems!..my spare cash has been used up...have to use a car for work!...now got a (fingers crossed) bmw compact to run around in!
..but i hit the big 40 next saturday :roll: :shock: !...so hoping to put any birthday money :D i get, into getting the cab finally down to the blasters!...in the next couple of weeks.
watch out for the photos!
Posted by: THEBOFFIN - 30 December 2010 21:51:27
hi all
work to car still on hold...unfortunately my father in law passed away on boxing day, so a lot to sort out
hope to get back to the bug soon, really want to get it done next year.
keep watching.
Posted by: zelensis61 - 31 December 2010 12:54:26
My condolences, Losing someone is always awfull.
Anyhow, in these sad days we wish you and your family all the best for 2011.
Posted by: THEBOFFIN - 03 January 2011 22:49:12
[quote=zelensis61]My condolences, Losing someone is always awfull.
Anyhow, in these sad days we wish you and your family all the best for 2011.[/quote]
Thanks for your kind words, much appreciated.
Posted by: THEBOFFIN - 07 March 2011 09:22:45
Hi All
Almost back to normal now, after a difficult couple of months, emptying the contents of my father in laws bungalow into our garage buried my bug,looking to start on the car again in the next couple of weeks now i can see it and have room to pull it in and out of the garage!
I hadn't realised i'd had it for so long, bought it end of march 2007! so four years!
I've got 99% of parts now i think, and as i'm going to use my LHD oval front beam, my solid 1962 RHD one, pedal set etc.. will be up for sale if anyones interested?
Having a good sort through my parts at the mo to fund the shotblast and prime that it needs...original 1962 Bosch headlamps, need to dig out the 1960's/70's NOS box:drool: ..that some of you raided at Stanford hall some years ago!
Posted by: THEBOFFIN - 07 March 2011 20:09:17
....My mate has lent me his trailer and car, so the vert shell is going to the blaster this thursday for a blast and prime! :D
Can't wait to see the old girl stripped bare!, then the work can start!
watch for before and after pics on thursday..should be all done within the day, and the price has dropped..just £150! :thumbup: :d
Posted by: 55Kab - 09 March 2011 08:35:02
Good to hear things are a little more settled.
Good news also that she's finally going to the blaster. Post some pics up when you get her home.
Posted by: THEBOFFIN - 09 March 2011 14:02:02
[quote=55Kab]Good to hear things are a little more settled.
Good news also that she's finally going to the blaster. Post some pics up when you get her home.
[/quote]
Cheers!.. will do
Posted by: THEBOFFIN - 10 March 2011 22:56:56
Wow! :d what a difference a blast and prime makes!, the old girl looks great, as Trent said best £150 i've spent!!
As i expected the blasting did bring up some extra holes, particuarlly in the rear seat/luggage area, but all repairable and overall very good result!
the buckshot holes :shock: and dents now show quite clearly on the rear panel too now!
All fired up and ready to go now..will start some repairs this weekend
see some before and after photo's below, enjoy!!
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Posted by: 55Kab - 11 March 2011 07:38:37
Looks great Adam. Got to say that n/s quarter aside, it all looks pretty good and easily fixable.
Posted by: pre67vw - 11 March 2011 09:20:52
Yep, in cabrio terms - looks pretty good!
Posted by: THEBOFFIN - 11 March 2011 09:49:19
[quote=55Kab]Looks great Adam. Got to say that n/s quarter aside, it all looks pretty good and easily fixable.
[/quote]
Hi
yep it's very good overall, its had some original panels as you can see part replaced panels from other bugs..but all original steelwork, no repro's
Bit of a dilemma on that NS quarter tho as it's been butchered inside too, i've got a complete rear qtr that can go in, but i'm just concerned about door shut linning up etc. ,as it's so critical on a cab, probably going to just splice in face and rear ribbing.
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Posted by: pre67vw - 11 March 2011 09:58:34
Is there a factory weld along the trim holes? My suggestion would be to replace from the trim holes down. Then treat the other repairs completely seperately. [ATTACH]5690[/Attach]
Posted by: THEBOFFIN - 11 March 2011 10:38:37
[quote=pre67vw]Is there a factory weld along the trim holes? My suggestion would be to replace from the trim holes down. Then treat the other repairs completely seperately.[/quote]
Not that i've noticed..need to have a look. Was that were the saloon was modified by Karmann to fit the cabrio panels?
Posted by: pre67vw - 11 March 2011 11:01:23
[quote=THEBOFFIN]Was that were the saloon was modified by Karmann to fit the cabrio panels?[/quote]
I'm not sure to be honest, my '65 had a perfect weld along the trim holes on both sides - looked too perfect to be hand done, so I always assumed them to be factory welds. But it also seemed odd not to just press a complete rear quarter for Cabrios, I'd have though it would have been far easier.
I was thinking that as a lot of people repair doors from the trim holes down - that may be the way to go, but thinking about it now I'd probably go all the way up, would probably be easier.
Posted by: 55Kab - 11 March 2011 11:22:32
[quote=THEBOFFIN]Not that i've noticed..need to have a look. Was that were the saloon was modified by Karmann to fit the cabrio panels?[/quote]
On my car the cut line was above the swage line, which you can see (the dark line) in this photo of my car when it was with Gav [ATTACH]5691[/Attach]
Posted by: 55Kab - 11 March 2011 11:26:12
[quote=pre67vw]Is there a factory weld along the trim holes? My suggestion would be to replace from the trim holes down. Then treat the other repairs completely seperately.[/quote]
I agree with Rob here. Seems to most logical way to go. These days it's not uncommon. Here's a 52 in France that had a similar repair: [ATTACH]5692[/Attach] [ATTACH]5693[/Attach] [ATTACH]5694[/Attach]
Posted by: pre67vw - 11 March 2011 11:27:46
[quote=55Kab]On my car the cut line was above the swage line, which you can see (the dark line) in this photo of my car when it was with Gav[/quote]
Ahhh, jogged my memory - yep I think thats where mine was as well.
Posted by: pre67vw - 11 March 2011 11:35:18
[quote=55Kab]I agree with Rob here. Seems to most logical way to go. These days it's not uncommon. [/quote]
Plus you can brace up the door gap and make sure that nothing moves while putting the replacement parts on. If you go with a complete quarter, you won't be able to brace anything (although it's still do-able with lots of care/measurements)
Posted by: THEBOFFIN - 11 March 2011 13:07:25
i'll have a look for the join...must be well disguised as they dont show obviously!
and yes i'm just going with replacing parts.
thanks guys for the advice!
Posted by: 55Kab - 11 March 2011 15:15:45
[quote=THEBOFFIN]i'll have a look for the join...must be well disguised as they dont show obviously![/quote]
You won't see it Adam. It's leaded from the factory, you'd have to melt the lead out with I guess something like a blowtorch.
Cutting it through the trim holes is what I'd do.
Posted by: GKL 7 - 11 March 2011 15:43:59
I'd go trim holes down.
Here are some pictures of a door we repaired,will give you a rough idea at what level you should be looking for the capping join on your 1/4 panel. [ATTACH]5696[/Attach] [ATTACH]5697[/Attach]
Posted by: THEBOFFIN - 11 March 2011 19:12:03
[quote='50 Karmann]I'd go trim holes down.
Here are some pictures of a door we repaired,will give you a rough idea at what level you should be looking for the capping join on your 1/4 panel.[/quote]
thanks
adam
Posted by: THEBOFFIN - 11 March 2011 19:18:36
[quote=55Kab]You won't see it Adam. It's leaded from the factory, you'd have to melt the lead out with I guess something like a blowtorch.
Cutting it through the trim holes is what I'd do.
[/quote]
i'll have a look, but 50 Karmann has suggested a slightly different cut?
Posted by: GKL 7 - 11 March 2011 20:07:11
[quote=THEBOFFIN]i'll have a look, but 50 Karmann has suggested a slightly different cut?[/quote]
No Adam,on this occassion i'd go along the trim lines,because you have inner and outer damage.Like Rob said this way you can brace the exsisting panel and join.I think if you remove the full panel,you'll be knackered.
The pictures were purely to show you the location of the factory join.
Posted by: THEBOFFIN - 11 March 2011 21:24:33
[quote='50 Karmann]No Adam,on this occassion i'd go along the trim lines,because you have inner and outer damage.Like Rob said this way you can brace the exsisting panel and join.I think if you remove the full panel,you'll be knackered.
The pictures were purely to show you the location of the factory join.
[/quote]
Thanks for that, yes i agree dont want to remove too much and loose rigidity, must keep the opening true especially as its a cabrio
Posted by: THEBOFFIN - 30 January 2012 09:37:33
Since my last post I've decided to make the car as authentic as possible.. Hence my purchase of the lhd 56 pan that was on eBay and Dave's 56 'crash' gearbox!... That will be fun to drive!..
So along with my 56 engine I've had from the start this is about as near as I can get to having an original 56 vert, without it being a matching numbers car.
So my semi restored (new pans by previous owner)rhd 62 pan inc original gearbox and beam, not forgetting pre-suffix plate XSJ 847 with full current v5 in my name and tax exempt will be for sale shortly!.. Watch this space,
Posted by: THEBOFFIN - 30 January 2012 09:39:20
hi all
now it's home new pics of 56 LHD pan, that had been sat for 18 years in the same place untouched!...has had new pan halves but done very well and very solid otherwise,..even included a free birds nest in the frame head! just needing a paint and cleaning off of some surface rust and green!..came with partial V5 and correct registration too, great!
Picked up Dave's gearbox too, in good order too, just gave it a clean.
Just need some of the missing bits now if any one can help?..torsion tube covers, rear brake drums and backplates, and gearbox cradle and big bolts..
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Posted by: THEBOFFIN - 30 January 2012 09:40:51
i've read in the original oval VW brochure and the handbook that the de-luxe models and convertibles originally had a syncromesh gearbox and not a crash gearbox which was only fitted to the standard models?
...can anyone help..want to identify if the one i bought from Dave is syncromesh or not?
Posted by: vintagebug - 30 January 2012 11:10:36
What's the number on the gearbox? If it begins with the letter "A" then I think that means it's got syncro on 2nd, 3rd & 4th gears. A full crash 'box doesn't have the "A".
A '56 cabrio shouldn't have a crash 'box.
Dave
Posted by: vintagebug - 30 January 2012 11:30:33
I've seen the ad for your 'box and the number is A-853581, which means it's a June '56 'box with syncro on 2nd, 3rd & 4th gears. It's the correct model for your cabrio :thumbup:
Posted by: THEBOFFIN - 30 January 2012 12:19:58
[quote=vintagebug]I've seen the ad for your 'box and the number is A-853581, which means it's a June '56 'box with syncro on 2nd, 3rd & 4th gears. It's the correct model for your cabrio :thumbup:
[/quote]
Thanks Dave
Just what i wanted to hear!!:thumbup:
adam
Posted by: vintagebug - 30 January 2012 13:37:20
How's the resto going, Adam? It looks like your making some progress again! :thumbup:
Posted by: harveypj - 30 January 2012 22:33:51
All the bits coming together nicely:thumbup:
Would I be correct in saying the beam on the 56 pan is a lowered one?
Posted by: AW - 31 January 2012 12:40:34
Yes looks like the mounts have been cut and turned. It was how it was done years ago before all these drop kits came on the market. People also used to turn them the other way to go on off roaders.
Also it looks like the rear spring plates have been moved to lower it by the position that thay are in.
Andy W
Posted by: AW - 31 January 2012 12:48:00
PS theres a L H D 56 pan with transaxle and front beem on Ebay at the moment :thumbup:
Andy W
Posted by: THEBOFFIN - 31 January 2012 15:03:31
[quote=AW]Yes looks like the mounts have been cut and turned. It was how it was done years ago before all these drop kits came on the market. People also used to turn them the other way to go on off roaders.
Also it looks like the rear spring plates have been moved to lower it by the position that thay are in.
Andy W[/quote]
Andy,
I thought the beam had been cut and turned when i saw the pics , but strangely has only been cut halfway through then welded up??..any ideas?
And I want to go back to standard ride height, any idea how to get the rear spring plates back to where they should be at factory height ??
Adam
Posted by: AW - 31 January 2012 16:25:10
Not knowing how many splines its been droped and at whitch end is hard to say but looking at the angle of the spring plates maby just one spline on the outside fitting.
I would get the spring plate so it is just over the shoulder of the casting. Make sure you dont pull the tortion bar out of the splines on the spine of the chassis. Then you have to twist the tortion bar to get the spring plate over the sholder.(not easey becouse you use the waight of the car to help you) But its just gues work unless you have the factory settings and tools to do it.
Sorry for the poor scetch but i hope you get the gist of it.
Andy W [ATTACH]6990[/Attach]
Posted by: THEBOFFIN - 31 January 2012 16:48:37
[quote=AW]Not knowing how many splines its been droped and at whitch end is hard to say but looking at the angle of the spring plates maby just one spline on the outside fitting.
I would get the spring plate so it is just over the shoulder of the casting. Make sure you dont pull the tortion bar out of the splines on the spine of the chassis. Then you have to twist the tortion bar to get the spring plate over the sholder.(not easey becouse you use the waight of the car to help you) But its just gues work unless you have the factory settings and tools to do it.
Sorry for the poor scetch but i hope you get the gist of it.
Andy W [/quote]
Cheers Andy
do you know why anyone would have partially cut the front beam??...bit concerned that torsion bars may have been dammaged??...although i do have a spare standard but holed and rusty 1955 front beam!...
Posted by: AW - 31 January 2012 16:54:39
No not realy but who knows whats gone on in there if it was me i would look around for a nother axle. just for pice of mind. Thay may have cut and removed some of the laminate springs so she would sit lower but with out taking it to bits !!
Andy W
Posted by: pre67vw - 31 January 2012 16:59:59
[quote=AW]No not realy but who knows whats gone on in there if it was me i would look around for a nother axle. just for pice of mind. Thay may have cut and removed some of the laminate springs so she would sit lower but with out taking it to bits !!
Andy W [/quote]
I doubt it, you have to remove sections on the outside section from the grub bolts otherwise it doesn't lower (don't ask how I know :rofl:) Might just be that they wanted to lower it, cut through half way and then chickened out. It's easy enough to take the trailing arms off one side, pull the leaf springs out and check that they're all OK.
Posted by: AW - 31 January 2012 17:05:21
Yes You have to leave an inch of leaf for the grub screws to hold and remove the rest it gives you a weeker spring.
Andy W
Posted by: THEBOFFIN - 31 January 2012 17:10:22
[quote=AW]No not realy but who knows whats gone on in there if it was me i would look around for a nother axle. just for pice of mind. Thay may have cut and removed some of the laminate springs so she would sit lower but with out taking it to bits !!
Andy W [/quote]
Mind you the one from my 1962 pan is perfect, just set up for RHD...easy mod though!
...looking at the rear spring plates again though, and judging by the rust and no obvious sign of the spring plates being removed from the torsion bars on the rear axle, i suspect they may have been taken out together and just pushed back into place??...ssupose the only way to tell is tap the plates out with a hammer and see wether they spring down!:omg: ??
Posted by: AW - 31 January 2012 17:17:02
The fun of old cars :rofl:
Andy W
Posted by: THEBOFFIN - 31 January 2012 17:19:52
[quote=AW]The fun of old cars :rofl:
Andy W[/quote]
Indeed!..we must all be crazy!!:drool:
Posted by: THEBOFFIN - 18 June 2012 14:50:01
Hi All
Just a few pics on the pan swap...62 to 56!
Once the birds nest in the frame head had been removed (even found an old egg!)...the 56 pan needed a lot more patching than i'd envisaged in ...mind you i had been outside for 20 years under semi cover!...then a couple of fresh coats of smoothrite and it looked good!.....
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:shock: :D
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Posted by: THEBOFFIN - 18 June 2012 15:01:34
Just need to work out how to set up the rear spring plates now to factory ride height, then i can get the 56 box bolted to the pan....the previous pan owner had bodged a later rubber donut and put it behind the spring plate in the torsion tube!...either to take up slack??..or more likely to make the car wider and lower at the rear!!!..pushed plate out by 10mm! never seen anything like it before!!
are there any special tools needed to set up the angle of the plate?, or just a protractor??
Posted by: Andy Sparks - 18 June 2012 23:55:38
i done mine with a bit of maths and a large bit of cardboard. more accurate.
Posted by: THEBOFFIN - 19 June 2012 09:16:44
[quote=Andy Sparks]i done mine with a bit of maths and a large bit of cardboard. more accurate.[/quote]
can you tell me the dimensions and angle etc to set mine up?
thanks
Posted by: THEBOFFIN - 22 April 2013 11:14:51
[quote=THEBOFFIN]can you tell me the dimensions and angle etc to set mine up?
thanks[/quote]
Hi
Can anyone help?:shock: , putting my pan back together this week and need to know, havent even go a haynes manual anymore that i think has the angles?
cheers
:d
Posted by: THEBOFFIN - 10 May 2013 22:54:27
Hi all
after a long break ive now re-arranged my garage and flipped the old girl on her side to get the welding done....after the shotblasting a couple of years back the body has held up well..see nex few pics of areas i need to tackle...both rear ends of the sills need some work as can be seen, but i dont want to remove and replace them as they are 80% solid, i think a rust treatment on the inner heater tubes and repair plate over the bottom as i've no intention of using the heating system. :D :D :shock: :shock: :D :D
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Posted by: Chris - 11 May 2013 18:47:43
You've certainly got your work cut out for you with the shell. However, I'm sure it will all be worth it once it's done and in paint :thumbup:
Posted by: THEBOFFIN - 06 August 2013 08:57:12
My Dad started to strip the 56 engine today, never saw it running but seems in reasonable condition, but won't know until we get the heads off.
Manual choke 28 PIC carb is missing a stud and the idle jet, theres a sheared rocker retainer clip, some missing screws on tinware, but engine doesn't look like its been apart, just covered in grease!
teeth on flywheel are chewed so will need the correct 6V flywheel if anyone has one?
Plan is just to thoroughly clean check and re-gasket plus sevice parts as neccessary depending on wear as the engine doesn't seem have too much endfloat.
Then repaint and fit :shock: :D
here are a few pics...
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Posted by: zelensis61 - 06 August 2013 11:47:58
Nice picts. Just one tought from my side.
If the car was mine, I whould replace the reinforcement rails. They are heavy metal rails with on the inside a V shaped profile ( v with a flat bottom. They are needed to avoid that once you step in to the car, the doors whould shut and open normaly. I had checked an early convertible for a friend a few months ago. With pict album from the resto.... Guess what, they did not use the original reinforcement rails but aftermarket...when I pointed them to this issue, they told me...they are ok. Then we steped in to the car with 2 adults (95 kg each) and the doors jammed terrible. The Z plate inside the heater channel and the V profile was not copied in the aftermarked rails.
I am sure you can weld them up but will they be ok? and what about warping due to welding.
My 1303( sorry rob:omg: ) was once welded on one side.Well done but due to the tension...The doorgap is not ok now. I know it is hard work but then you can be sure that all the work is ok. Just my idea. :thumbup:
Posted by: THEBOFFIN - 06 August 2013 12:36:38
[quote=zelensis61]Nice picts. Just one tought from my side.
If the car was mine, I whould replace the reinforcement rails. They are heavy metal rails with on the inside a V shaped profile ( v with a flat bottom. They are needed to avoid that once you step in to the car, the doors whould shut and open normaly. I had checked an early convertible for a friend a few months ago. With pict album from the resto.... Guess what, they did not use the original reinforcement rails but aftermarket...when I pointed them to this issue, they told me...they are ok. Then we steped in to the car with 2 adults (95 kg each) and the doors jammed terrible. The Z plate inside the heater channel and the V profile was not copied in the aftermarked rails.
I am sure you can weld them up but will they be ok? and what about warping due to welding.
My 1303( sorry rob:omg: ) was once welded on one side.Well done but due to the tension...The doorgap is not ok now. I know it is hard work but then you can be sure that all the work is ok. Just my idea. :thumbup: [/quote]
Hi
Thanks, for the advice, just found a chap on The Samba in the USA selling replacement rails exactly the same as an original ones, as he used an NOS one as a pattern.
on the photos you can clearly see the flat 'V' shape reinforcement inside.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1089247
I will have a closer look at mine and see how much of the 'V' is left then see wether i can perhaps use a box section of steel inside the 'V' to strengthen the rusted section of the rails, while the doors are fitted to keep the gaps true.:d
Posted by: THEBOFFIN - 13 August 2013 21:54:04
Hi all
almost completed stripping down engine but can't find a 15mm socket wth a shallow enough shoulder to get in to remove head bolts!
can anyone help or point me in the right direction to get a tool?
thanks!
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Posted by: Rich Oakley - 14 August 2013 09:26:06
[quote=THEBOFFIN]Hi all
almost completed stripping down engine but can't find a 15mm socket wth a shallow enough shoulder to get in to remove head bolts!
can anyone help or point me in the right direction to get a tool?
thanks!
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You need something like a Draper Expert CR-V 15mm socket. Go to a Draper supplier and they'll have one (Car spares shop, tool supplier etc). This socket has a much narrower diameter.
Posted by: THEBOFFIN - 14 August 2013 09:55:29
Thanks Rich
I'll get one of those, we can then get the heads off and see the condition of the rest of the engine.
On first inspection its not too bad, apart from the top of one of the valves has a chip off the end and one pushrod is very slightly bent with what appears to be a very slight kink at the rocker arm end, although they are very subtle and you really have to look to see them!
My Dad and I both think these faults have been there from the factory, and the engine does not appear to have ever been apart previously
cheers
adam
Posted by: THEBOFFIN - 14 August 2013 10:52:07
Hi Rich
here's a pic of the chipped valve,
any thoughts on wether it was like this from factory?
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Posted by: THEBOFFIN - 19 August 2013 15:45:30
More engine progress pics..
cleaning messy tinware! :shock: :D lovely job!..will then paint strip clean off rust, treat, prime and paint...should the finish be semi matt black or gloss black?..bit unsure!
engine almost stripped down to block. heads look ok, will give them a good clean and decoke, also barrels and pistons are good on the one side and after a decoke spotted the original VW stamp on the top of the pistons!
Other jobs to do ..rewelding steering box locating tabs from rusty LHD axle to solid 62 one, checking starters and dynamos etc.
Flying along now :D :lol: :D 8) really got the VW 'bug' back!!!
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Posted by: THEBOFFIN - 22 August 2013 14:48:18
Hi
Can anyone help with parts for my 36 hp engine?
need;
an inlet valve,
an exhaust valve
a single pushrod inc lifter
rocker arm assemblies or just arms
oil strainer
stud for exhaust mount on head
Used are fine as long as they are in good condition.
PM me with any details
cheers
adam
Posted by: THEBOFFIN - 27 August 2013 12:57:08
Hi All
Decided to tackle the door hinge replacement on one of my cabrio doors (which has bent hinges) using the 62 saloon door I had as a donor.
After reading a few posts on the web it seemed a relatively simple task!
First drill out the factory countersunk rivets on the donor door;
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Remove hinges;
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Secondly drill out the factory countersunk rivets very carefully on the cabrio door to retain the countersink in the door, which is essential to preserve the accurate lining up and placement of the replacement hinges;
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See here the original drilled out rivets and countersink in the door frame;
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Remove hinges;
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With hinges removed there was a little bit of twisting/damage to the door skin and flanges from the original hinge damage I guess, but this was minimal and behind the hinges, so I reshaped and tidied up skin as best I could.
With both sets of hinges out and put side by side you can clearly see the bend on the original ones!;
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Replacement hinges in cabrio door;
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To fix them back in I used M6 countersunk allen bolts and nylock nuts;
Once bolted up the new hinges looked good in the door!;
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I then mounted the door on the shell (which is much easier with the body on its side!
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Fit seems very good on hinge edge;
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Gap is out of line slightly on door catch side , so when body is bolted to pan I’ll check again.. there could be a slight bit of flex in the body…but the gap for a cabrio body off the pan is great!
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Once I’m happy and ready to paint the doors, I’ll tack weld the allen bolts in place on the inside face to keep them secure.
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Posted by: THEBOFFIN - 27 August 2013 17:09:37
Important comment made on my post on VZi...very important to keep the countersink on hinge plate as well as doors!! :shock: :shock:
[color=red]"Oh, I wish I'd known you were doing the hinges. Reason I say this is the second hand hinges you've fitted look to have ovalled holes from when you removed them. Over time the opening and closing of the door will make the door slip within the ovalled hole and cause the door to misfit.
I found this out when I had to replace my 59s hinges due to the same damage as yours. I also removed the upper strengthening plate due to being split and bent outta shape from the door swinging too far backwards. Had to weld the holes up and re-drill them.
I thought it best to let you know this instead of finding out a few years down the road after paint ;)
Otherwise top job :) "[/color]
Hi
Thanks for the advice
Yes i did overdrill one hole on the top donor hinge before i realised the actual hingeplates were also countersunk, and slightly drilled off center on some of the others, although there was enough coutersinking left on both hinges for them to locate correctly.
But yes i agree they could move in time which is why before i paint the door i will weld the bolts up in position and drill a couple of holes at the top and the bottom through the door and into each hinge plates then plug weld them to keep them secure.
cheers!
Posted by: THEBOFFIN - 03 September 2013 10:07:23
Few more progress pics..
Started painting tinware….cleaned front pulley, stripped back oil pump cover and behind pulley tinware, back to bare metal, but was quite pitted so used hammerite rust treatment high build primer which gave a good smooth finish,
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then painted with a rattle can of BMW gloss black I had left over, got quite a good finish that I’m happy with!...gloss rather than semi matt finish , but looks good!
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Barrels and studs cleaned…just need to tackle heads!
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Recieved free original used valves from Dave B (thanks Dave!)
In great condition and original marked up VW ones too!
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While digging through whats left of my ‘NOS Box’ I found the two parts of the oil pump gear sealed in original bags!...by putting the old and new together I could really see the wear on the original gearing.
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Also started sorting out other bits and pieces so I can start putting the pan/brakes/suspension back together.
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Coming along nicely!
Posted by: pre67vw - 03 September 2013 13:49:11
:thumbup:
Posted by: THEBOFFIN - 23 March 2015 16:35:43
Hi All
been a long time since my last post!...not done a lot in the last year except paint most of the tinware and repair/paint the stale air heat exchangers, some pics to follow.
Hopefully in the next month i'll be getting back to it again, starting with finishing off rebuilding the engine, then the running gear and pan.
will keep this post updated, keep watching!:shock: :d
Posted by: lil_azza - 22 January 2016 17:41:58
Looking great buddy keep it up
Posted by: THEBOFFIN - 27 June 2017 09:59:09
long time since the last post...but progress!..engine rebuilt, gearbox and front axle done, now a rolling pan too!..now on to the bodywork!..pics to follow.
