hi,
ive just got myself a 66 project with plenty of bits missing and plenty of work required, what im after is information to begin with,
example: the bug has ball joint front suspension and 4 stud brakes all round, i was under the impression that pre 67's were king and link pin with wide 5.
could it be a cross over model thing or that someone has 'upgraded' at some point?
thanks in advance
andrew
Posted by: 54 Gertie - 12 January 2009 16:45:24
[quote=number 6]hi,
ive just got myself a 66 project with plenty of bits missing and plenty of work required, what im after is information to begin with,
example: the bug has ball joint front suspension and 4 stud brakes all round, i was under the impression that pre 67's were king and link pin with wide 5.
could it be a cross over model thing or that someone has 'upgraded' at some point?
thanks in advance
andrew[/quote]
Hi Andrew! :d
Your right, pre 67 cars should have 5 stud king and link pin beams! That is apart from 67 1500s, unless im mistaken! Unless your car is a 67 year model (changed from 66 year model in august) car then it could have these bits!
What reg is your car? E or D?
Will :beer:
Posted by: harveypj - 12 January 2009 16:52:45
king and link pin was up until 1965.
your 66 is correct with ball joints.
should have 5 stud wheels though.
5 stud wheels remained until 67. 1966/7 had slotted rims with flat hub caps.
Posted by: 54 Gertie - 12 January 2009 17:40:27
[quote=harveypj]king and link pin was up until 1965.
your 66 is correct with ball joints.
should have 5 stud wheels though.
5 stud wheels remained until 67. 1966/7 had slotted rims with flat hub caps.
[/quote]
Ahhhhhh! :oops: I thought they ended in 67! You learn something new everyday!:d
Heres a pic of a 66/67 wheel!:d
[img]https://www.partsemporium.co.uk/images/semi_slot_66_wheel.JPG[/img]
Posted by: number 6 - 12 January 2009 19:41:54
thanks for the replies
its a D registration.
really wish it had the wide 5's as they look so much better.
does anyone know if its just a case of changing the drums, or is it a lot more than that?
Posted by: crazydaze - 12 January 2009 23:32:58
[quote=number 6]thanks for the replies
its a D registration.
really wish it had the wide 5's as they look so much better.
does anyone know if its just a case of changing the drums, or is it a lot more than that?[/quote]
Some really late build '66's on D plates had the 67 model 4 studs. I have a couple of mates with these features as per factory.
Alex.
Posted by: JD - 13 January 2009 10:07:11
[quote=number 6]thanks for the replies
its a D registration.
really wish it had the wide 5's as they look so much better.
does anyone know if its just a case of changing the drums, or is it a lot more than that?[/quote]
IIRC its simple enough to swap back to wide five drums. Direct swap with the correct parts. `66-67 rear drums are a little wider, so don´t try to use earlier ones.
Posted by: number 6 - 13 January 2009 15:21:53
thank you all for the replies.
will certainly consider changing to wide 5's even if it did come from the factory as it is now.
Posted by: Rach66 - 13 January 2009 16:44:54
Any pics of your '66? Always interested in pics:d
Posted by: number 6 - 14 January 2009 09:16:23
hmm..... its barely recognizable as a beetle at the moment, ill try and get some up at the weekend
Posted by: number 6 - 14 January 2009 10:39:18
can anyone tell me which side striker plate this is please
[IMG]https://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r2/bugfez/striker0012.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]https://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r2/bugfez/striker0022.jpg[/IMG]
im missing the opposite side to this one
Posted by: Rich Oakley - 14 January 2009 11:26:51
Offside (driver's side)
Posted by: number 6 - 14 January 2009 13:07:35
Excellent thank you for that.
are you the same mr oakley off the earlybay forum?
Posted by: Rich Oakley - 14 January 2009 15:36:28
[quote=number 6]Excellent thank you for that.
are you the same mr oakley off the earlybay forum?[/quote]
Could well be. :wink: I get everywhere.
Posted by: GKL 7 - 14 January 2009 19:11:25
And he really does mean EVERYWHERE.
Posted by: heb623 - 15 January 2009 06:36:44
[quote=Rich Oakley]
Could well be. :wink: I get everywhere.[/quote]
Don't think so![-x
:twisted: ET
Posted by: Boris1966 - 17 January 2009 12:49:04
Hi Number 6,
I too have a 1966 beetle. it's the 1966 model/ july 1966 manufactured so has wide 5 wheels, ball joints etc. Are you going to keep the car 6 volt? If so.... i might have some parts you may need as i have converted mine. Also have some seals/ other bits.
Leane :)
Posted by: number 6 - 17 January 2009 14:13:50
wow thanks for the offer, i hadnt even considered it being 6 volt:oops:
all my others have been 70's you see!
can you pm me a list of what you have please
thanks in advance
andrew
Posted by: Dubster - 17 January 2009 20:20:26
[quote=number 6]wow thanks for the offer, i hadnt even considered it being 6 volt:oops:
all my others have been 70's you see!
can you pm me a list of what you have please
thanks in advance
andrew
[/quote]
It would have been 6 volt as standard, my car is a December '66 ('67 model) and it is 6 volt. Many have been converted to 12 volt over the years.
Please post some photos of the car :)
Posted by: Rich Oakley - 17 January 2009 21:39:11
[quote=heb623]
Don't think so![-x
:twisted: ET[/quote]
I avoid Belgium on purpose :wink: :lol:
Posted by: number 6 - 18 January 2009 14:11:28
ok as promised some pictures.............please dont laugh!!
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[IMG]https://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r2/bugfez/handles011.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]https://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r2/bugfez/handles012.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]https://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r2/bugfez/handles013.jpg[/IMG]
spot the previous owners mistake?!
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[IMG]https://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r2/bugfez/handles015.jpg[/IMG]
iv got to replace the bulk head as its badly rotted on the other side, what are the 4 screw holes for, 2 on the left and 2 near the middle?
Posted by: 54 Gertie - 18 January 2009 14:18:55
Wow thats a project and a half!:wink: :beer:
Looks solid in all the right places! And its on marathon beetle wheels, the best 4 stud in my opinion! 8)
[img]https://www.sebeetles.com/images/weltmeister_zeithaus.jpg[/img][url=https://www.sebeetles.com/marathon.htm]Marathon Beetle site[/url]
Posted by: JD - 18 January 2009 14:19:29
The screw holes are for the headlamp dipswitch.
Thats quite a project you have there! WHat are your immediate plans? Finish the welding I guess?
Posted by: number 6 - 18 January 2009 14:22:20
thanks, they were an ebay bargain, paid 40 quid for 5, obviously had to change the tyres
Posted by: number 6 - 18 January 2009 14:27:38
[quote=JD]The screw holes are for the headlamp dipswitch.
Thats quite a project you have there! WHat are your immediate plans? Finish the welding I guess?[/quote]
bugger thats something else i must be missing,
immediate plans are to tidy the welds on the pans, fit all new brakes,pipes etc, then tackle the bulk head, really not looking forward to that!
Posted by: 54 Gertie - 18 January 2009 14:28:01
[quote=number 6]thanks, they were an ebay bargain, paid 40 quid for 5, obviously had to change the tyres[/quote]
I had a set a few months ago that were comlplete with caps and they were unbelievably hard to sell! :oops: Got a decent price in the end at least!:d
Posted by: number 6 - 18 January 2009 14:30:38
iv had the wheels for approx 4 years they've been on two of my past beetles, perhaps they weren't the bargain i thought!
Posted by: 54 Gertie - 18 January 2009 14:38:11
[quote=number 6]iv had the wheels for approx 4 years they've been on two of my past beetles, perhaps they weren't the bargain i thought![/quote]
Nah 50 notes seems pretty fair! Did they come with the chrome centre caps?
Posted by: JD - 18 January 2009 14:41:04
I´d see if I couldn´t patch that bulkhead if I were you. Looks too nice to be chopped out.
What colour should it/will it be?
Posted by: number 6 - 18 January 2009 14:49:57
unfortunately this is how the outer side looks
[IMG]https://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r2/bugfez/handles016.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]https://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r2/bugfez/handles017.jpg[/IMG]
the far corner is almost as bad as the one you can see.
Posted by: JD - 18 January 2009 15:09:22
Ah! :shock:
Posted by: number 6 - 18 January 2009 15:22:19
[quote=54 Gertie]
Nah 50 notes seems pretty fair! Did they come with the chrome centre caps?[/quote]
nope:oops:
Posted by: 54 Gertie - 18 January 2009 15:30:21
[quote=number 6]
nope:oops: [/quote]
Still, I would have guessed at around £40 for a set wit no caps and as yours seem to have their original paint on them that may add some value?:wink: :twisted:
Will
Posted by: number 6 - 18 January 2009 15:38:45
well im hoping to be able to just simply put wide 5 drums on and then have some nice standard wheels. has anyone else justed changed the drums from 4 to 5 stud?
Posted by: tman - 18 January 2009 16:55:13
[quote=number 6][IMG]https://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r2/bugfez/handles013.jpg[/IMG]
spot the previous owners mistake?![/quote]
The rear brake pipe from the master cylinder is connected to the fuel line?! :shock:
Posted by: 54 Gertie - 18 January 2009 17:00:46
[quote=tman]
The rear brake pipe from the master cylinder is connected to the fuel line?! :shock: [/quote]
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Would work I suppose!:roll:
Posted by: JD - 18 January 2009 19:33:08
[quote=tman]
The rear brake pipe from the master cylinder is connected to the fuel line?! :shock: [/quote]
Where you been? :roll:
Its called "DIRBFLUINJ" - Direct Brake Fluid Injection. Gives 173mpg at a steady 55mph (if you can pump the brake pedal fast enough.)
Posted by: harveypj - 18 January 2009 21:25:33
[quote=JD]The screw holes are for the headlamp dipswitch.
Thats quite a project you have there! WHat are your immediate plans? Finish the welding I guess?[/quote]
I thought 66 was first year of head light dimmer switch being on indicator stalk?
My 66 had a switch on the indicator arm, kind of a button.
Posted by: number 6 - 18 January 2009 22:04:01
ah yes now you've said that there is a button on the stalk.
Posted by: harveypj - 18 January 2009 22:14:43
1966 was one of the major 'evolution' years for the Bug. You will find out there are quite a few 66 only parts, makes interesting research.
Posted by: 54 Gertie - 18 January 2009 22:18:31
[quote=harveypj]1966 was one of the major 'evolution' years for the Bug. You will find out there are quite a few 66 only parts, makes interesting research.
[/quote]
And some people call us geeks!:roll:
But seriously though there is nothing better than a bit of "reasearch". Ive spent many a happy hour looking into the variations in Batwing hornpushes!:d
Posted by: harveypj - 18 January 2009 22:25:54
:lol: they call me 'Reg' at work (after the Kenny Everret character) "Reg here" (in a nerdy voice) because of my VW fetish.
Finding out about all this stuff is all part of the fun of running a Bug:d
Posted by: 54 Gertie - 18 January 2009 22:29:01
[quote=harveypj]:lol: they call me 'Reg' at work (after the Kenny Everret character) "Reg here" (in a nerdy voice) because of my VW fetish.
Finding out about all this stuff is all part of the fun of running a Bug:d [/quote]
My friends at school have found it best to simply turn the subject to football when I begin discussing the changes in the years in oval window beetles!:lol:
Posted by: Rach66 - 19 January 2009 14:24:09
[quote=harveypj]1966 was one of the major 'evolution' years for the Bug. You will find out there are quite a few 66 only parts, makes interesting research.
[/quote]
And infuriating to get parts!:roll:
Posted by: Rach66 - 19 January 2009 14:25:03
That's quite a project, good luck with it. Any time scale for completion?
Posted by: number 6 - 19 January 2009 15:25:19
before i die would be nice:p
Posted by: number 6 - 19 January 2009 17:13:37
where does this go and which way up and round:?
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[IMG]https://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r2/bugfez/plate002.jpg[/IMG]
thanks in advance
Posted by: Rach66 - 19 January 2009 23:01:43
[quote=number 6]before i die would be nice:p [/quote]:lol:
Posted by: harveypj - 20 January 2009 15:39:49
Its the 'bearing' plate from your foot pedal assembly.
I would be located against the tunnel, the pedal shaft running through it.
Posted by: number 6 - 20 January 2009 17:47:30
excellent thank you, another one answered:d
Posted by: number 6 - 23 January 2009 13:20:06
right after asking on my local club forum there seems to be some doubt over my bug being a 66, some seem to think that its a 67 with earlier deck lid etc added so....
the date of registration on the v5 is 12/9/66 so does this make it a 66 or 67?
anyhoo
the chap brought the v5 round for me to sign last night as when he delivered the bug he forgot to bring it ::)
so the story begins... my mate brought the 66 then decided he couldnt afford to restore it so sold it to me but the chap who delivered it had brought it previous to my mate.
what we (me and my mate) didnt know was that the original owner had brought brand new wide 5 drums for it, so this chap turns up with a v5 and four new drums and offers them to me for 80 quid i barter and get him down to 40 quid, he leaves grumbling and im a happy chappy...... however when i opened the boxes inside i find all new brake pipes, clips and various other brake related bits that were missing from the bug, so the sneaky fooker had removed the drums before passing it on to my mate, then proceeded to sell them to me seperately >:(
though if he hadnt have brought them i would have never known and would be spending a lot more buying them from a shop
Posted by: VW Stan - 23 January 2009 14:43:44
Model Years change start of August so it's a '67. E Reg?
Round buttons on the door handles?
:d
Posted by: number 6 - 23 January 2009 14:54:56
yep round buttons, ivory knobs and its definately a D reg
Posted by: pre67vw - 23 January 2009 16:00:54
E Reg's ran from 1st Jan 1967 to 31 July 1967, so D reg is correct - but in VW model years its a 67 model I think.
Posted by: harveypj - 23 January 2009 22:11:18
66 was the last of what I call the 'old style'.
Do your vent window latches have chrome handles or a plastic knobs?
My 66 also still never had hazard lights, 67's do I believe.
interior door handles are still lever type, 67 are pull out type.
ash tray lost its pull knob in 67.
Narrow external chrome trim too.
Posted by: Boris1966 - 24 January 2009 11:59:43
What a lovely project bug.
I love the 66 year bug..... last of the sloping headlighters!!!!!
In the future myself and boyf' are considering restoring a '63 so will be interesting to hear your progress.
Leane :wink:
Posted by: crazydaze - 24 January 2009 13:32:56
[quote=Boris1966]What a lovely project bug.
I love the 66 year bug..... last of the sloping headlighters!!!!!
In the future myself and boyf' are considering restoring a '63 so will be interesting to hear your progress.
Leane :wink: [/quote]
UK 67's were Sloping headlamps, long bonnet, one year only Decklid and Rear Valance and 4 Stud wheels, some times with front discs and 12v depending on the model spec.
In the US they got the upright headlamps etc a year earlier than the UK for the 67 model year 12v with the one year only decklid.
Alex
Posted by: number 6 - 25 January 2009 09:12:40
[quote=harveypj]66 was the last of what I call the 'old style'.
Do your vent window latches have chrome handles or a plastic knobs?
My 66 also still never had hazard lights, 67's do I believe.
interior door handles are still lever type, 67 are pull out type.
ash tray lost its pull knob in 67.
Narrow external chrome trim too.
[/quote]
yep quarter catches are chrome
no hazards either
lever door handles
no ashtray so cant comment!
and the body has large holes so presumably for wide chrome trim
a spanner in the works?
Posted by: harveypj - 25 January 2009 21:15:43
Wide chrome is correct for a 66.
Sounds like a 66 to me.
You mentioned the deck lid.
66 was the first year for 1300 engine, the deck lid will be 'full length', also first year engine size badge was put on.
66 badge read 1300 later years read 1300cc.
Posted by: number 6 - 26 August 2009 14:16:36
well its been a while since i updated and not a lot has changed really, the camper has been recieving most of my time and money so the 66 is on the back burner.
any way few pics to show just how rough the 66 really is!!
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and that be all folks...........
for now!!
