Herbie is definitely real - he was at Hessisch! I was also told not to refer to him as "it". He doesn´t like it apparently!:d

JD wrote:

I think they would rubbish it if they new the car was made in December 52.This alone makes the milelage claim invalid as the records he kept were from 1951. :lol:

Sunroof53 wrote:

I doubt anyone working on the programme in question would have an extensive knowledge of the finer details of early 1950s Volkswagens. It would have just been something to fill time before the next set of adverts... Much like most of their output, then.

64rotbox wrote:

Probably should go into the Wolfsburg VW Museum for that alone:o

Standard split wrote:

I'm not trying to be controversial here, but I always understould that it had a place earmarked in the VW Museum but VW decided that after it had been rebodied it couldn't realistically be considdered to be the same car and thus no longer felt that it should be in the museum.

I love Rateletrap too, but I think one has to take much of what Tony said with a pinch of salt. VWM used to say that Rattletrap didn't necessarily add up on all counts and Tony himself said after the restoration that the only thing left on the car that was original was the gear knob. I doubt that even that could have been original as the chassis was replaced int the early 70s for a post 08/55 version so presumably that would have required a cranked gearlever? :?

For all that, it remains a great piece of history and as you say, has done loads to promote early VWs.

Mike

Mike Peckham wrote:

Yes I agree with you totally. Thats what I think about the car too :beer:

mrsherbie wrote:

It'll be the star there

Standard split wrote:

Nonsense. They and VW Motoring can see it's a Zwitter style body.

Even if the mileage could only be dated from 1952 – it would still be a hell of a lot.

Unlike Herbie(s) Rattletrap is real and there is just the one. Rattletrap's history and story knock all other old UK VWs for six :twisted:

Many love Rattletrap, and some just want to rubbish it 😳

Rattletrap has done a lot to increase the interest in early VW's with its TV and magazine appearances 8)

Standard split wrote:

I wasnt talking about VWM but the feature in Volksworld that you were talking about.Clearly they think the car was a 51.

Sunroof53 wrote:

A '51 it is then – not a '52 – I used to think it was a '53 once.:twisted:

Standard split wrote:

It´s probably all three!:lol: :lol:

JD wrote:

It´s probably all three!:lol: :lol:

JD wrote:

I still think there's four 'Beetles' hiding in there, but at the root is Tony's beloved '51 – which is what counts[-x

Standard split wrote:

Well I for one for really like to know the answer to this seemingly unsolveable mystery. Where is Baz Haselock???

55Kab wrote:

Well I for one for really like to know the answer to this seemingly unsolveable mystery. Where is Baz Haselock???

55Kab wrote:

I seem to recall that 'Bearded Baz' had a price put on his head in the mid-90s when he closed his workshop. I think he'd upset some people, but I can't remember the exact story. I last saw him skulking in the back of Kingfisher Kustoms' old workshop in about 1996.

Rich Oakley wrote:

A '51 it is then – not a '52 – I used to think it was a '53 once.:twisted:

Standard split wrote:

Chassis No 1-0433703 makes the original rattletrap a December 1952 car.How can you validate mileage history from 1951 for a car that was not built for another 2 years:roll:

Sunroof53 wrote: