I have always thought this is a great car, but just saw some interior pics and discussion about it on another forum ( to be modified!) and thought I would post it here, in any attempt to keep it owned by a stocker!
I dont know the owner, or the car, but I think these pics speak for themselves! It is original paint Diamond green.
It's not far from the condition of my lhd all original 55, and I would want more than 4k for that if I were to sell it ( which I am not) even with my roof dents!

https://www.pre67vw.com/classifieds/detail.aspx?id=1035 

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I would love to take that on but I've already got the '58 waiting!

M
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With wing beading and rear light rubbers painted over I doubt that the exterior paint is original :?:

Original paint on the inside is nothing unusual. It is a nice car though and would look good driving around as it looks :wink:

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There looks to be og blue paint under the back seat and bottom of the door, unless its primer ???

Wasn't this car for sale on here a while ago ?

Kev

100% primer. My 58 was the same. I was quite surprised how thin the base colour coat was in places, particularly the bottoms of the doors. Might just be a metalic thing?

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Actually she has had paintwork in the past, I only discovered this when I pulled her out of the barn to wash her for the first time in seven years of me owning her. And even when I first purchased her and draged her out of the barn in Exeter I hadn't noticed, due to the fact that the old guy had coated her in wax with a five inch brush back in 1981 when he put her away.

So yes she has had paintwork and I have tried to revise the classified but it wont let me?? I dont want to mislead anyone in any way.

Having said that, It doesn't take much away from the fact that she is still a beautiful old girl.

Anyway, she's now been given a new brake and fuel system and just completed her first mile in 27 years.

If she doesn't go to a good home she'll stay with me and see the road once more next year. ( Which really is what I want, :lol: :lol:

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I would'nt worry, I think old repaints with patina are perfectly acceptable nowadays, so long as the seller says so, especially when a car is over 50 years old and so original otherwise. I must admit I did think it was in almost too good! condition for og metallic, as they go flat SO fast, much more so than the flat colours like my beige car. And whereas my flat non metallic paint polished up, I have tried to do a metallic and they just dont come up at all once the lacquer has worn off. But it does look like a very accurate diamond green. Such a super colour. Also the bottoms of those doors and under rear seat say the car is in very good shape indeed.

I found the thread going about the car on the other forum a pretty funny read :lol: I love the way people are quick to brag about solid rustfree og uk ovals being ten a penny and easily found! The fact that Julian Robinson is very admirably restoring that frightening 53 is evidence enough that UK rhd cars are very special indeed.

I almost wish I owned a rhd uk oval because if I did I would run an online register for them because someone really needs to!

Yes, I can find you hundreds of shiny restored cars for sale complete with nasty tmi interiors and heavily repaired full body restos, put back together plastered with repro parts & accessories

Its taken me 20yrs of vw's to get my og oval, not 5 minutes searching!! And to be fair I would'nt have found it without Owen, as it never went up for sale anywhere.

I know yours is a 56 (not 54/55 as following samba thread) but your engine looks very correct ( I am not expert on engines!) a lot like mine which I didnt even realise was so correct until I read this thread on the samba! I have posted my engine on there:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=179439&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 

I have always found that personal cars owned by people who work daily in the vw scene ( ie. not just cars being handled for a living) are usually the good ones, and judging by the bottom door shot and under rear seat it is pretty clear that this is a very good solid car as it looks just like mine.

Funnily enough we bought a 65 this year that we thought was og paint as it was flat and chalky and the correct colour, I only discovered it was'nt after we'd had it for a couple of months (has had an exterior only repaint many years ago) when I washed it for the first time also! :lol:

I look forward to seeing your car out next year anyway. And by the way I would'nt even consider selling my leftie for £4k! :d

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Its a lovely car Anna, and I hope it finds a good home to have a 100% stock resto, but I don't think it is quite as solid as may first appear ..............














Still worth 4K?


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If it was LHD it would be worth less than half that, so how much does being RHD add?

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Yes, because if it was mine thats what I would also want for it. I think it is the right price and wouldnt accept a penny less based only on the photo's on the net. And equally, like the seller, I 'do not need' to sell any of my cars either, like lots of people on pre67 forum, but far less so on V**
So when I do I can afford to ask what I believe is correct market value (like the seller)
V** is hardly the most reliable index for vw prices! :lol:

And if the VLY 91 plate is going back on the car? There is over half the money right there!! Yet everyone seems to have overlooked this minor detail??!!

And for the record, an unwelded lhd complete driving oval with an interior as good as the 56 would not be worth less than £2k Rob, as you know having recently searched for one.

This car looks to need a bit less welding than my 50 did.
So lets put it into perspective and remember that both the 56 and my 55 are unwelded honest cars, as those pics above are VERY blown up huge pics of small holes, especially in the footwell lower corner of the bulkhead (look at the size of the vent trim in the pic!!) which is an area that virtually ALL pre57 cars need work on. Admittedly my car has no rust here, but then it is not a uk rhd either. The bonnet is oddly bad on the green car like at some point it has sat under a gutter, but still it is fixable ( my bonnet is not rusty but has 3 splits of 1 inch each that I need to repair)

I have found a hole in my rear corner now also, (although my heater channels are perfect) and you notice this wing needs repair as the bottom corner under the stoneguard has gone!

And here is the wider shot ( no repaint or resto here) you see how the hole and wing repair does'nt seem so bad now? :wink: And dont forget my car came from as far North in Sweden as you can drive! not 50 years on SALTY uk roads.


My spare wheel is the worst part of my car, as you see I have a very similar rusty split all along also, and apparently mostly due to the fact that 54/55 didnt have the lower black round cover, so it would have got wet in here! ( a Wolfparts panel is going to fix this :d )



As you know Ovalbug I bid on your car also :d BUT the big thing I dont like about UK cars is 'concrete garage disease' that nasty veined surface rust that gets inside. This green car does not have this problem inside and that is indictative to me that it has been kept reasonably dry. It's rot is from road use, which means the rust has not got into every seam, so is much more specific to small areas and so easier to repair.

I am SURE there are a few even more solid unrestored unmessed with UK cars around, but lets be honest its not going to be lots! :lol:

Ovalbug, I think your car was a great buy especially being a rare UK 53!! But feel free to post up pics of the same areas if you are confident that is is better than both mine and the green car?

Its not a competition, and I am not saying the 56 is biggest absolute bargain of the century, but then why should it be? but I also dont think it is so bad as some people are making out?
Are there any other unwelded uk cars for sale at the moment for comparison?
Try buying a uk oval that has multiple patch repairs under the arches and all over it for £2k, and see how much of a pig that is to put right...!
I dont know how much work Chris had to do on his Uk diamond green oval? maybe he will look in and say hello too! :d

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Halleluya!!

I always said this was the adults forum!!

Ovalbug/Nessy, Isn't it just nice to see all these cars still alive.

I think my cars worth £4k

Sure it's got some rust issues, but there must be only a handfull UK RHD cars (if that) that haven't.

Come and take a look at her

Those pictures were taken straight after I pulled her out of storage and still have 27 years of road poo under the arches.

Anyway, didn't realise she would cause so must controversy so hopefully you'll see me driving her at a vintage show next year.

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It might sound odd, but I actually struggled to find a lhd oval - they all seemed to be rhd (although mostly imports).

I personally don't think it's worth £4k, I only consider unwelded to be valuable if the car is solid and doesn't actually need welding, otherwise you still have a big welding bill to add to it. But I also don't get excited over 'UK' cars, or put much value into number plates - but thats just me and my opinion.

Volkswagen Weddings can advertise their car for whatever they believe it's worth, and if they get it then they would have been right.

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I know what you mean, there do seem to have been quite a few rhd imports about this year, and I am the same as you, not really fussed about the uk car thing myself, although I like plates :oops: :lol:

But still plates out on the open market nothing to do with vw's have a value, and that plate being a 3 letter 2 no. is a £2k plate at least. Likewise ovals have a market value and any driving complete half tidy stock oval is worth £2k before you factor in a nice useable interior.
Also welding up a previously unwelded/messed with car takes far less time and is far more likely to end up with perfect gaps and a better finish in less time than a car with old repairs/panels replaced already, so there is a saving.

There is far less gamble in this car than buying an £8k(double) splitbus right now, as buses are on the slide, and beetles on the rise in popularity again ( albeit slow!)

And a proper clean truly rustfree unwelded uk oval that looks nice is going to cost more than £4k! although that will buy you the same rustfree post57 car.

Interestingly this is another uk rhd 55 pic pinched from the samba so I hope he does'nt mind! with the identical spare wheel issue and after a lovely repair!