lee ivatt
17 years ago
Does anybody know which is more rare deluxe 49 or standard 49. As its going to take a lot of metal work to fill in all those holes, when i could just put new chrome deluxe trim on. I cant weigh up between the ammount of work and having a standard with deluxe trim on?

As to your estimate on the age, ive got a letter saying it was november 49. just thought this might help determin the trim spec?

Oh and its definatly black, the chassis was bordeux red. My favorite colour but very difficult to get a mirror finnish!
Past Restorations

1954 International Tractor-----1971 1200 Orange Beetle-----1985 Mk3 Escort S1 RS TURBO
1972 1600 VW Camper-----1969 MK1 Escort Mexico RS-----1949 Standard Beetle (incompleted)
1993 Escort Cosworth 4x4 350bhp---1970 1300 Orange Beetle---1971 Aston Martin DBS Vantage
1992 Mk Golf GTI 16v (2.8 VR6 conversion-----1982 MK3 Escort RS 1600i (restored twice!!)
1987 Sierra 3dr Cosworth to concourse--1968 1300 Red Beetle--1967 1500 Lotus White Beetle
1972 1200, Orange beetle (yes I like orange!)

Currently restoring

1958 old english white golge rag top--- 1992 mk3 Golf VR6
six-o-one
17 years ago
Lee,
The VW books, 'Progressive refinements' list the last body number from November '49 as 83175

The deluxe model was introduced in July '49.

I think if it were mine I would try to restore it to whatever spec it was originally. Standard beetles are very cool and very sought after.
(Expecially a nicely restored '49 std! :wink: )
lee ivatt
17 years ago
maby the books wrong or more likley my papers are, ive not really looked at them properly. Looks like ive got a lot of fiddly welding to do!
Past Restorations

1954 International Tractor-----1971 1200 Orange Beetle-----1985 Mk3 Escort S1 RS TURBO
1972 1600 VW Camper-----1969 MK1 Escort Mexico RS-----1949 Standard Beetle (incompleted)
1993 Escort Cosworth 4x4 350bhp---1970 1300 Orange Beetle---1971 Aston Martin DBS Vantage
1992 Mk Golf GTI 16v (2.8 VR6 conversion-----1982 MK3 Escort RS 1600i (restored twice!!)
1987 Sierra 3dr Cosworth to concourse--1968 1300 Red Beetle--1967 1500 Lotus White Beetle
1972 1200, Orange beetle (yes I like orange!)

Currently restoring

1958 old english white golge rag top--- 1992 mk3 Golf VR6
pre67vw
17 years ago
Some spares? 
Rob Amos
Happiness is a stock VW
pre67vw
17 years ago
Also, just to keep you going...

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Rob Amos
Happiness is a stock VW
lee ivatt
17 years ago
any pics available of a black standard??So i know what im going to end up with? Am i right in thinking there should be no chrome in the window rubbers as well?

Would you guys suggest keeping an OE engine, or fitting a slightly more powerful lump and keeping an OE in storage so i can always swap it back. As im a bit worried about the 25hp, my ride-on lawn mowers got 17hp! Its going to be a massive jump from 200bhp turbo power through an LSD gearbox to something which is almost the same as my lawnmower. Im not thinking stupid (am I?) just a 1200 or 1300, i think id feel a bit safer with a bit or reserve power under the pedal? Its only an idea, dont worry people im not going to stick a subaru turbo lump in the back!
Past Restorations

1954 International Tractor-----1971 1200 Orange Beetle-----1985 Mk3 Escort S1 RS TURBO
1972 1600 VW Camper-----1969 MK1 Escort Mexico RS-----1949 Standard Beetle (incompleted)
1993 Escort Cosworth 4x4 350bhp---1970 1300 Orange Beetle---1971 Aston Martin DBS Vantage
1992 Mk Golf GTI 16v (2.8 VR6 conversion-----1982 MK3 Escort RS 1600i (restored twice!!)
1987 Sierra 3dr Cosworth to concourse--1968 1300 Red Beetle--1967 1500 Lotus White Beetle
1972 1200, Orange beetle (yes I like orange!)

Currently restoring

1958 old english white golge rag top--- 1992 mk3 Golf VR6
lee ivatt
17 years ago
changed my pic. How nice is this bordeaux red.  5441.jpg You have insufficient rights to see the content.
Past Restorations

1954 International Tractor-----1971 1200 Orange Beetle-----1985 Mk3 Escort S1 RS TURBO
1972 1600 VW Camper-----1969 MK1 Escort Mexico RS-----1949 Standard Beetle (incompleted)
1993 Escort Cosworth 4x4 350bhp---1970 1300 Orange Beetle---1971 Aston Martin DBS Vantage
1992 Mk Golf GTI 16v (2.8 VR6 conversion-----1982 MK3 Escort RS 1600i (restored twice!!)
1987 Sierra 3dr Cosworth to concourse--1968 1300 Red Beetle--1967 1500 Lotus White Beetle
1972 1200, Orange beetle (yes I like orange!)

Currently restoring

1958 old english white golge rag top--- 1992 mk3 Golf VR6
lee ivatt
17 years ago
Is there a way of finding out which colour interior my 49 had?
Past Restorations

1954 International Tractor-----1971 1200 Orange Beetle-----1985 Mk3 Escort S1 RS TURBO
1972 1600 VW Camper-----1969 MK1 Escort Mexico RS-----1949 Standard Beetle (incompleted)
1993 Escort Cosworth 4x4 350bhp---1970 1300 Orange Beetle---1971 Aston Martin DBS Vantage
1992 Mk Golf GTI 16v (2.8 VR6 conversion-----1982 MK3 Escort RS 1600i (restored twice!!)
1987 Sierra 3dr Cosworth to concourse--1968 1300 Red Beetle--1967 1500 Lotus White Beetle
1972 1200, Orange beetle (yes I like orange!)

Currently restoring

1958 old english white golge rag top--- 1992 mk3 Golf VR6
pre67vw
17 years ago

changed my pic. How nice is this bordeaux red.

"lee ivatt" wrote:



Yep, bordeaux red is probably my favourite.

Now you just need to change your sig: :wink: :
wanted - Split screen beetle to restore
Rob Amos
Happiness is a stock VW
'50 Karmann
17 years ago
Lee,have you had any luck with the original floorpan yet?
lee ivatt
17 years ago
Im still waiting for a reply from the man, He works in film and tv so hes often away for weeks at a time. But my fingers are really tightly crossed. I hear the chap who took you chassis may not have a use for it any longer? so this may be my next hope. Although i really really want a 49' and in a ideal world my shells chassis back! Please keep me informed!

Sorry about lateness ive just got back from cornwall. My poor Landrover has been to Wales, Glostershire, and Cornwall and back in the space of two weeks. (Im amazed i manage to fit in any work, well they do say all work and know play)After 2000 miles im sore, deaf and very light pocketed thanks to Shell&Texaco. Anyway knowing my luck ill find a chassis in Scotland or something stupid.Let me know if anything comes up. regards Lee
Past Restorations

1954 International Tractor-----1971 1200 Orange Beetle-----1985 Mk3 Escort S1 RS TURBO
1972 1600 VW Camper-----1969 MK1 Escort Mexico RS-----1949 Standard Beetle (incompleted)
1993 Escort Cosworth 4x4 350bhp---1970 1300 Orange Beetle---1971 Aston Martin DBS Vantage
1992 Mk Golf GTI 16v (2.8 VR6 conversion-----1982 MK3 Escort RS 1600i (restored twice!!)
1987 Sierra 3dr Cosworth to concourse--1968 1300 Red Beetle--1967 1500 Lotus White Beetle
1972 1200, Orange beetle (yes I like orange!)

Currently restoring

1958 old english white golge rag top--- 1992 mk3 Golf VR6
lee ivatt
17 years ago
Im still waiting for a reply from the man, He works in film and tv so hes often away for weeks at a time. But my fingers are really tightly crossed. I hear the chap who took you chassis may not have a use for it any longer? so this may be my next hope. Although i really really want a 49' and in a ideal world my shells chassis back! Please keep me informed!

Sorry about lateness ive just got back from cornwall. My poor Landrover has been to Wales, Glostershire, and Cornwall and back in the space of two weeks. (Im amazed i manage to fit in any work, well they do say all work and know play)After 2000 miles im sore, deaf and very light pocketed thanks to Shell&Texaco. Anyway knowing my luck ill find a chassis in Scotland or something stupid.Let me know if anything comes up. regards Lee
Past Restorations

1954 International Tractor-----1971 1200 Orange Beetle-----1985 Mk3 Escort S1 RS TURBO
1972 1600 VW Camper-----1969 MK1 Escort Mexico RS-----1949 Standard Beetle (incompleted)
1993 Escort Cosworth 4x4 350bhp---1970 1300 Orange Beetle---1971 Aston Martin DBS Vantage
1992 Mk Golf GTI 16v (2.8 VR6 conversion-----1982 MK3 Escort RS 1600i (restored twice!!)
1987 Sierra 3dr Cosworth to concourse--1968 1300 Red Beetle--1967 1500 Lotus White Beetle
1972 1200, Orange beetle (yes I like orange!)

Currently restoring

1958 old english white golge rag top--- 1992 mk3 Golf VR6
lee ivatt
17 years ago
Im having no luck with my pursuit to buy the original chassis for my shell back. though i have not given up, and im even considering begging! Please inform me of any pans 49-53 for sale as ive decided im going to start the restoration with any chassis i can get hold of, then hopefully change back to "my" 49 chassis when/if i get it!? As its looking like i could be waiting indefinatly. I want to have this car on the road next year!

kind regards
lee
Past Restorations

1954 International Tractor-----1971 1200 Orange Beetle-----1985 Mk3 Escort S1 RS TURBO
1972 1600 VW Camper-----1969 MK1 Escort Mexico RS-----1949 Standard Beetle (incompleted)
1993 Escort Cosworth 4x4 350bhp---1970 1300 Orange Beetle---1971 Aston Martin DBS Vantage
1992 Mk Golf GTI 16v (2.8 VR6 conversion-----1982 MK3 Escort RS 1600i (restored twice!!)
1987 Sierra 3dr Cosworth to concourse--1968 1300 Red Beetle--1967 1500 Lotus White Beetle
1972 1200, Orange beetle (yes I like orange!)

Currently restoring

1958 old english white golge rag top--- 1992 mk3 Golf VR6
2splits
lee ivatt
17 years ago
Ive asked this question before. does a left hand drive split have any advantage over a rhd car? As i prefer the bbt50 but im concerned about the rather long trip to get it.
The english 53 rhd chassis is a v good price and is a lot easier to pick up!
Help?
Past Restorations

1954 International Tractor-----1971 1200 Orange Beetle-----1985 Mk3 Escort S1 RS TURBO
1972 1600 VW Camper-----1969 MK1 Escort Mexico RS-----1949 Standard Beetle (incompleted)
1993 Escort Cosworth 4x4 350bhp---1970 1300 Orange Beetle---1971 Aston Martin DBS Vantage
1992 Mk Golf GTI 16v (2.8 VR6 conversion-----1982 MK3 Escort RS 1600i (restored twice!!)
1987 Sierra 3dr Cosworth to concourse--1968 1300 Red Beetle--1967 1500 Lotus White Beetle
1972 1200, Orange beetle (yes I like orange!)

Currently restoring

1958 old english white golge rag top--- 1992 mk3 Golf VR6
six-o-one
17 years ago
Im sure bbt will deliver it to the UK for you for not much money. they do regular trips with parts for UK companies who distribute their stuff and have an enclosed trailer they can tow.

And with the bbt chassis you get an engine to rebuild too!

😃
pre67vw
17 years ago
I'd go with the LHD too, it was most likely this originally. There are very few real RHD splits and it would stand out like a sore thumb as being wrong...
Rob Amos
Happiness is a stock VW
six-o-one
17 years ago
Oh, I forgot to say that it's only a couple of hours drive from the Eurotunnel terminal at Calis or, you can get the Eurostar from Waterloo straight to Brussles and a train to Antwerp. It's a loverly place to spend a weekend and you can check out the Bobs VW collection (and the floorpan) while you're there.

We went by train to check out the Heb before I bought it and they were very friendly and helpful. 😃
'50 Karmann
17 years ago
Malcs right,any excuse for a trip to Bobs.
I've purchased quite a few things from Bob and always met his driver behind Fort Dunlop in Birmingham(he also goes to London)Usually meet approx 8 am pay him take the stuff and away, never a problem.
I think the LHD pan is best for you Lee,i know the RHD pan,don't forget i gave it away(free)