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pre67vw
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15 years ago
Crazy price for a car with an oval dash and wrong pan...

https://www.thesamba.com:80/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=845260 
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kdf38
15 years ago
Ghia dash as per the ad.

Crazy price for a car with an oval dash and wrong pan...

https://www.thesamba.com:80/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=845260 

pre67vw wrote:

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pre67vw
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15 years ago

Ghia dash as per the ad.

kdf38 wrote:



Oh, in that case it's worth every penny :roll:
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heb623
15 years ago



Oh, in that case it's worth every penny :roll:

pre67vw wrote:



When you ask me €62.500 or £55.000 is well payed!!

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I only regret the good things I did for the wrong people!
55Kab
15 years ago

Crazy price for a car with an oval dash and wrong pan...

pre67vw wrote:



Out of interest, what is the going rate for a presentable car or one that needs a full resto? I'm guessing a few Hebs have been sold over the last 3-5 years so the experts must have a handle on prices!



VW Stan
15 years ago
It's very difficult to know what Heb's actually sell for compared to the asking price, assuming they publish a price to start with.

Mine sold for the asking price with about 12 people from around the world all ready to come over to see it.

I paid 50K Euros for mine 5 years ago and sold it earlier this year for 55K Euros.

A few American collectors emailed to say it was WAY too cheap, but that was to do with the exchange rate!

:d

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pre67vw
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15 years ago

It's very difficult to know what Heb's actually sell for compared to the asking price, assuming they publish a price to start with.

Mine sold for the asking price with about 12 people from around the world all ready to come over to see it.

I paid 50K Euros for mine 5 years ago and sold it earlier this year for 55K Euros.

A few American collectors emailed to say it was WAY too cheap, but that was to do with the exchange rate!

:d

VW Stan wrote:



With the original pan and the body number intact, and a split dash?
Rob Amos
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heb623
15 years ago
Rob you better buy that Hebmuller!:lol:
I am not going to sell you mine for a cheaper price!![-x

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55Kab
15 years ago

It's very difficult to know what Heb's actually sell for compared to the asking price, assuming they publish a price to start with.

Mine sold for the asking price with about 12 people from around the world all ready to come over to see it.

I paid 50K Euros for mine 5 years ago and sold it earlier this year for 55K Euros.

A few American collectors emailed to say it was WAY too cheap, but that was to do with the exchange rate!

:d

VW Stan wrote:



So assuming it was mostly all there and matching numbers, the black/cream one that was on the Samba recently was in the "ball park" price wise? Can't find the ad now.


pre67vw
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15 years ago

Rob you better buy that Hebmuller!:lol:
I am not going to sell you mine for a cheaper price!![-x

:twisted: ET

heb623 wrote:



Nah, I'm not spending that on an old peoples car :shock:

Time to look for a new hobby... 😞
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zelensis61
15 years ago
I know that car is sold now. the black and white one on the samba and it stays in Europe :d .
I even might know who bought it, altough I am not sure, yet but I have a clue.

The prices for a heb depend on the history, the way the car looks, the originality and or the parts that are included.
This is a driveble heb, remember, and it is a real one, despite the dash. If I had the money, I whould roll it like it is :? .Where is my Lotery ticket?
This one is different from the restored ones, Everybody noticed it in Hessisch. The same goes for South African heb, No nrs known but the history from 57 until today is known, for Hamburgerheb the same, for VONDEUN HEB, Fantomas heb, ....You know what I mean. They have their own identity in surplus it is a heb. You can identify it instantly as 'that one'.
With a restored heb, you have to ask the nrs to identify them.

I know that the ad now , for 201 will come with most of the needed parts and some history. I even know that there is a carboard strip with the car that included all the nrs for the car, axels, engine, pan, body, keys, color...
That is only included on a few cars, 3 or 4 to be exactly.
The ad does not say it has the Split dash included. It is a misunderstanding that the Ghia dash is included( obviously is that included :roll: ) .

To pin a price on a heb....Cheap one was sold few years ago for about 10.000 Euro :shock: , missed it in one day.
Expensive heb was sold for + 100.000 Euro. :shock:

Best regards. Peter
ZELENSIS, coachbuilt body from the 50's on a vw platform made in Belgium. Peter the heb detective
55Kab
15 years ago

Time to look for a new hobby... 😞

pre67vw wrote:



I hear the caravan club or the inter county basket weavers have a huge following and don't care ubout matching numbers and whether the vans or baskets have a Petri steering wheel fitted! :lol:

55Kab
15 years ago

To pin a price on a heb....Cheap one was sold few years ago for about 10.000 Euro :shock: , missed it in one day. Expensive heb was sold for + 100.000 Euro. :shock:

Best regards. Peter

zelensis61 wrote:



Interesting read Peter, thanks for the reply. Would you say a Hebmuller is consistantly the most expensive air cooled VW today? Or will a Schwimmer of Type 82E for example beat it?

zelensis61
15 years ago
55 kab:

Would you say a Hebmuller is consistanly the most expensive air cooled VW today



Well, it is al about taste and money..and not forgetting the demand and offer.
To say it is the most expensive air cooled VW today is a bit high...
Rometsch, Dannenhauer, Denzel, Beutler, wendler to name a few are to my opnion more expensive but you have to like them and find them.
A schwimmer is also expensive but what about the looks? :shock: I do not see much schwimmers go to Hessich by road on their own wheels.
Most of the 29 hebs came in own power.

Best regards. Peter
ZELENSIS, coachbuilt body from the 50's on a vw platform made in Belgium. Peter the heb detective
GKL 7
15 years ago

I do not see much schwimmers go to Hessich by road on their own wheels.

zelensis61 wrote:




Peter,would you drive a swimm upto 2000kms[-x
Quite a few Hebs coming up for sale recently,i think the prices will continue to rise.
GKL 7
15 years ago
I know there could be a thousand reasons,but it concerns me why the numbers are not in the car.
OK he may have removed them to repaint,but surely you'd put them back.
zelensis61
15 years ago
Hi george.
The nrs are there because the previous owner did not put them back on the car.
The current owner had the intention to restore this and collected parts to do this.
He asked me lots of questions. I think he even had at one point the both front clips.
flat with no tools shelf and small tank and later one not sure wich one he should use.
Because of the idea to restore the car, the plates were not mounted.

Why it is up for sale is his choise, maybe something different came his way or another project, who knows?

To figure out what a fair price is , is hard to tell..If is like I asked you what is a fair price for a 50 convert :wink:
If you bought a schwimmer, you could easely schwimm to Hessisch ...from UK :lol: :beer: That whould be a convoy BOB could not beat, however he could join you in Rotterdam :shock: .

Best regards. Peter
ZELENSIS, coachbuilt body from the 50's on a vw platform made in Belgium. Peter the heb detective
55Kab
15 years ago

If you bought a schwimmer, you could easely schwimm to Hessisch ...from UK

zelensis61 wrote:



He couldn't Peter, Lancaster bombers will drop bouncing bombs on him! :lol:

overrestored
15 years ago

Time to look for a new hobby... 😞

pre67vw wrote:



I kinda feel the same way about vw prices Rob. I have been getting into old italian and french bicycles instead. you can buy the coolest bikes... with all the crazy lug work... still cheap sometimes. I just bought a beauty at a swap meet... 25 dollars. after cleaning it up... it looks great. And with the less important frames... they are fun to turn into single speeds... or "fixies".

It is the same" jones" as vw's were 30 years ago before everyone was into them and the prices were sky high.

I still like vw's... it is just the prices of the cars has gone so high there is never one cheap enough to just buy on a whim anymore...now it is a serious financial consideration!... kind of takes the fun out of it.
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15 years ago



I still like vw's... it is just the prices of the cars has gone so high there is never one cheap enough to just buy on a whim anymore...now it is a serious financial consideration!... kind of takes the fun out of it.

overrestored wrote:



this is exactly it! :beer:
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