To my honnest opinion Etzhold is that not Hebmuller Nr 1.

Heb 1 must be black. And on a certain detail I must say that it is at least none of the first 50 cars that are made.... :shock:
The engine lid is missing the rectangular pressings..

If I am wrong, than somebody can explain me.

And yes, finaly VintageVw found his dream and I must say that it is a realy good one he found.

Greetings . Peter.

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Hey Peter,

I have this info From " The VW old-timer magazine" Vol. 10 No 5
One rear fender is black, And also the taillights !! :lol:
I was just giving the info, that I have, maybe its wrong I dont know !
Do you have a copie from this magazine there is a lot of information(21 pages) in about hebmuller, I can send you some scans if you want !

Regards,

Guido
 7813.jpg You have insufficient rights to see the content.

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I don't have that one, I'd like a scan please!! Thanks! 😎

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Rob,

I'll send them tonight, in high resolution, so you can print them out !

Guido

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Count me in for the scans , thanks Guido..

The give away in the pict is the top of the firewall on the raincatcher... Early cars have a slight rounded firewall top. Later cars have a straight firewall

In the book of jacky Morel are the same picts and it reads that a heb was back in the factory after an accident.
That is maybe also not correct as in the agreements between Hebmuller and VW was written that all repairs had to be donne by VW dealerships.. and not by Hebmuller.

Greetings. Peter.

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Peter,

I can't send mails to your email adresse [email protected] !
Did you change it ???
Let me know !
Rob must have receive now the first page !!

Regards,

Guido

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Rob, Peter

You must receive now 21 pages hebmuller information !
If not , let me know , what pages are missing !
I'll try to send the missing pages again !


guido

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I agree with Peter. That is definitly not Number 1!

The three first had different shaped decklids with sedan popesnoses

Body nr:s 1 and 2 were black and body number three was grey.
The colours are confirmed by the documents posted on Bruce Braun's site.

Here they are in correct order:

Number 14-0001


Number 14-0002


Number 14-0003


The picture Guido posted confirms my statement that there should be two holes in the panel for the wiring harness underneath the firewall. The smaller (left one) is for the startercable and the bigger (right one) for the main harness.



Edit:>The picture text under the second picture you posted said production number one. In other words it would be body number 14-0004 in that case. The square under the licenceplate would be difficult to see in those pictures anyways so maybe it would be correct? I don't know wether the first productioncar was black or white though?

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Excuse me!!! :?
Rob and Peter before you start to thank Etzhold1 for the informative copies of Hebmuller technoligy you better thank me first! :?
Because without me Ethold1 could not suply you with all that valuable info! :shock:
Why? :shock:
Simple! :shock:
Once upon a time I took my "Hebmuller" copy of the IVVM magazine with me over there and forgot to take it home! :oops:
Months and months I've been looking for it but could not find it anymore!!!
But now I know better!!!

So Etzhold1 you know what thats means!
Order you wife to bake or buy cake and she has to make a lot of coffee too!!! :shock:
I am coming to get my magazine back!!! :wink:
Don't damage the magazine ... or else??? 😶

:twisted: ET

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Hijack,

Hi Guys,

I have an original Hebmuller emblem and would like to trade it for a coloured Saint Christopher horn button. If anyone is interested email [email protected]


Here is a photo of what it looks like. This is from the Samba's gallery, it's the one on the top right hand side:

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/168480.jpg 

Thanks

Mike

Ofcourse the Saint Christopher horn button has to be an original one !:roll:
Or is the button allowed to be a repro too just like all the stuff you show us here? :oops:

:twisted: ET (the mean one)

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Yes all the ones in the picture except the one on the top right hand side are repro's. I used this picture from the Samba for a reference. Those emblems are not mine. Mine looks like this one also:

https://www.vw-reeder.de/seiten/picszub/ac5.jpg 

I will post pics of mine later. I am not a hebmuller expert, so be easy on me :wink:

I think the top right one is a repro also...

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That top right Hebmuller badge never was used on any VW based Hebmuller... That is an older design. The Hebmuller badge below is the correct design for VW based Hebmullers.

Sorry.. 😞

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Here's a picture of the emblem up close. Do I throw it away or what? Thanks for your help.  7915.jpg You have insufficient rights to see the content.

Maybe that logo is genuine maybe not!
I can not tell you that for sure but what I can tell you for sure is that this logo never has been used on a VW based Hebmuller! Just like Hebster52 told you!
The photograph below shows you how an original logo for VW based should look like!!!

:twisted: ET  7916.jpg You have insufficient rights to see the content.

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:wink: :lol: :wink:

andreas 😎  7918.jpg You have insufficient rights to see the content.

Nice but wrong!!!

:twisted: ET (the mean one)

ps. I know it is fake too but you better bought one like this when you you had the chance to do so!!! :lol:  7919.jpg You have insufficient rights to see the content.

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Well, that different (older) logo was atleast used untill 1949... Maybe some of the early -49's did have them?

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OK OK!
To put it on your Hebster it will be all right!!
To put it on my Hebmuller no way!!!

:twisted: ET

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