Posted by: JD - 06 September 2010 11:53:57
Wow!Beautiful.:shock: [img]https://i943.photobucket.com/albums/ad271/jrvwjr20102/VW%20ACTION%202010/wwwvwbugcouk-VWACTION2010286.jpg[/img] [IMG]https://i943.photobucket.com/albums/ad271/jrvwjr20102/VW%20ACTION%202010/wwwvwbugcouk-VWACTION201022.jpg[/IMG] Tell us more Ivan!

Posted by: Ivan - 06 September 2010 12:33:53
I had been keeping it quiet, but the cat is out of the bag now! The car is the 1952 Kab which was restored by Rheinhold Plank in Italy between '95 and '97 for an old friend of mine called Sean Geddes. Sean lives in Italy and only gets back to the UK for about two weeks of the year, so the car had only done about 800 Kilometres since the restoration was completed in 1997. The last time it was used was 2002 - as Sean couldn't get it started and didn't have time to get it looked at - but had worked out it wasn't getting fuel at the carb. So, the car just sat in a lock-up until about three months ago. I spoke to Sean in February and he told me he wanted to sell the car as he wanted to buy a house on Sardinia. He was also put his just completed - and 1st class 1951 356 up for sale - and that sold very quickly through Maxted Page - see a pic here; https://www.maxted-page.com/cars/default.aspx Anyway, about three months ago Sean and I met up to see what the car was like now. It needed a fair bit of work! The fuel system needed to be totally gone through. The fuel had gone off turned to a brown tar like substance. This was in the fuel tank, the reserve tap, the fuel lines, pump and carb. I spent 27 hours alone cleaning the tank out. The problem was made a lot worse by the fact the tank had been lined with a rubberized tank liner and when I used acetone to loosen the petrol it loosened the liner too! A total nightmare! The clutch was useless so the engine had to come out, the brake system needed a total rebuild (tried getting a rebuild kit for 16mm wheel cylinders lately? Thanks to the help of George Lloyd who supplied me with a rear wheel cylinder and was in on the fact the car was going to be coming back out of hiding). The wiper switch had mysteriously decided to self-destruct (Thanks to David Butterfly in California who gave me a NOS switch!). The electrical system had to be gone through - just from sitting around for so long too. My good friend Carl Maher sorted out the mechanical work - he's got a 1952 Sedan - the goal being to get the car to VW Action. Webster and Lancaster in Watford got the job of detailing it. The car had been sitting for so long the paint had gone very flat, all the exterior trim had gone off and the underside needed three days work to get it back to 'concours'. It was right up to the wire - I collected the car on Friday and drove straight to VW Action. Only a couple of people knew it was likely to be at the show. I did not want to enter it in to the show as I am not interested and I don't think it looks good if the bloke from the magazine wins an award, but the organisers were very insistent - so I agreed as they wanted to display the car in the main marquee so people could have a good look at it. Anyway, they stitched me right up as they got me to hand out the awards and then when it came to the Best of Show 'Europe's Most Beautiful Beetle' award they awarded it to the Kabriolett. I wasn't expecting it, and it floored me! I wasn't happy I'd been stitched up, but I was happy that the car had one as it is a great piece of work by all involved. Oh, and it didn't miss a beat all weekend. But then, it is a Volkswagen! P.S. Rich, you were right! :-)

Posted by: Sunroof53 - 06 September 2010 14:35:29
Very nice ,i saw this at Action and couldnt quite beleive what i was seeing. The tent was full of people bidding so i couldnt get round it .Unusual colour, was it lowered when you bought it ? or more to the point are you going to?

Posted by: Ivan - 06 September 2010 15:01:27
[quote=Sunroof53]Very nice ,i saw this at Action and couldnt quite beleive what i was seeing. The tent was full of people bidding so i couldnt get round it .Unusual colour, was it lowered when you bought it ? or more to the point are you going to? [/quote] Not lowered - and never will be! Colour scheme is Karmann correct.

Posted by: JD - 06 September 2010 15:51:59
Thanks for the write up Ivan. Got a real beauty there. Say - any chance I can get some mags with my car in! All I ever got was a torn open empty envelope. The only copy I have seen was a coffee(?) stained one, that I stole from Funky Pete.

Posted by: dp - 06 September 2010 17:27:48
Congratulations on such a simply stunning car! Always wanted a set of that period correct aluminium wiing beading.

Posted by: GKL 7 - 06 September 2010 18:54:33
[quote=JD] Say - any chance I can get some mags with my car in! All I ever got was a torn open empty envelope. The only copy I have seen was a coffee(?) stained one, that I stole from Funky Pete.[/quote] Goto the back issues page - Tight Arss:lol:

Posted by: Ivan - 06 September 2010 20:00:12
[quote=dp]Congratulations on such a simply stunning car! Always wanted a set of that period correct aluminium wiing beading.[/quote] It's bonkers - you have to polish the wing beading! George would rather have had the decklid vent trims. If we have any copies left here in the office - NO PROBLEM James! I will check.

Posted by: andylham - 07 September 2010 10:18:28
seen this at action a very nice car with alot of cool parts on it especially the wing beading and vert decklid trims i dont see any problem with a employe of a magazine winning a award if the cars good enough as this clearly was it should get a award and i`m sure most would agree with this wish it was in my garage (but lowered and narrowed :wink: )

Posted by: pre67vw - 07 September 2010 12:07:41
[quote=andylham]i dont see any problem with a employe of a magazine winning a award if the cars good enough as this clearly was it should get a award and i`m sure most would agree with this [/quote] I understand where Ivan's coming from, he's asked to judge a few shows and isn't just an employee of the magazine he's the editor. However, I'm glad he got stitched up and won the award :lol: It's great when a STOCK early VW wins an award regardless of the owner!! Add into it the fact that Ivan does so much to help the hobby (and always champions the stock cause equally as much as others) I don't think this car could be in better hands (except mine) :wink: :beer: 8)

Posted by: Rich Oakley - 07 September 2010 13:21:34
[quote=Ivan] P.S. Rich, you were right! :-) [/quote] I always am :wink: Really glad you got it and I look forward to seeing it again in the near future. Are you taking it to the REME museum in a couple of weeks?

Posted by: Ivan - 07 September 2010 14:22:27
[quote=Rich Oakley]I always am :wink: Really glad you got it and I look forward to seeing it again in the near future. Are you taking it to the REME museum in a couple of weeks?[/quote] I do plan to, yes! After all if it wasn't for that Ivan this Ivan probably wouldn't have the life he loves so much! That coupled with the fact it's only about an hour away from my home. Actually, scratch that... it's more like and hour and a half in the kab! :-)

Posted by: Ovaltine - 08 September 2010 15:39:17
[quote=pre67vw]Add into it the fact that Ivan does so much to help the hobby (and always champions the stock cause equally as much as others [/quote] Oh and of course and not to help himself:roll: Vintage VWs are the guys bread and butter his employment, the editor of a leading old Volkswagen magazine. If the interest in old VWs dies so does his job, which provides him with the means, (like seen elsewhere on this forum with other 'enthusiasts'), to open his wallet and get the VW he wants. I'm sure Ivan is a decent person but please, this brown-nosing is really off-putting and probably embarassing for the man.:x Want to admire someone regarding vintage VWs here, Last Triumph is the one with his late night detailed oval rebuild (53 - 57 forum). How does he find the time for the rebuild and update his amazingly detailed thread.:beer:

Posted by: JD - 08 September 2010 15:48:49
[quote=Ovaltine]Oh and of course and not to help himself:roll: Vintage VWs are the guys bread and butter his employment, the editor of a leading old Volkswagen magazine. If the interest in old VWs dies so does his job, which provides him with the means, (like seen elsewhere on this forum with other 'enthusiasts'), to open his wallet and get the VW he wants. I'm sure Ivan is a decent person but please, this brown-nosing is really off-putting and probably embarassing for the man.:x Want to admire someone regarding vintage VWs here, Last Triumph is the one with his late night detailed oval rebuild (53 - 57 forum). How does he find the time for the rebuild and update his amazingly detailed thread.:beer: [/quote] Oh FFS. How embarassing.:oops:

Posted by: pre67vw - 08 September 2010 16:31:50
[quote=Ovaltine] Vintage VWs are the guys bread and butter his employment, the editor of a leading old Volkswagen magazine. If the interest in old VWs dies so does his job, which provides him with the means, (like seen elsewhere on this forum with other 'enthusiasts'), to open his wallet and get the VW he wants. [/quote] The stock/vintage part of the hobby is tiny compared to the number of enthusiasts who like lowered/cal-look/drag race/beach buggies and looking at the size of events such as bug jam and VW action it doesn't look like interest is dying off at all - Ivan could easily neglect the stock fans and still have a popular magazine and make his living, yet in each issue of Volksworld there is a stock feature car, Bob Shaills column and Retro stuff from Peter Noad. Also shows like Hessisch and Camberg get good covereage in the mag, not just a single page write up. So I'd say he does champion the stock side of the hobby as much as the others, now he even owns a stock vintage VW as well - surely a good sign! [quote=Ovaltine] Want to admire someone regarding vintage VWs here, Last Triumph is the one with his late night detailed oval rebuild (53 - 57 forum). How does he find the time for the rebuild and update his amazingly detailed thread.:beer: [/quote] The Last Triumph thread is awesome and no mistake. [quote=JD]Oh FFS. How embarassing.:oops: [/quote] x2 :oops:

Posted by: Ivan - 08 September 2010 17:38:07
[quote=Ovaltine]Oh and of course and not to help himself:roll: Vintage VWs are the guys bread and butter his employment, the editor of a leading old Volkswagen magazine. If the interest in old VWs dies so does his job, which provides him with the means, (like seen elsewhere on this forum with other 'enthusiasts'), to open his wallet and get the VW he wants. I'm sure Ivan is a decent person but please, this brown-nosing is really off-putting and probably embarassing for the man.:x Want to admire someone regarding vintage VWs here, Last Triumph is the one with his late night detailed oval rebuild (53 - 57 forum). How does he find the time for the rebuild and update his amazingly detailed thread.:beer: [/quote] You speak a lot of truth, of course it is in my interest for Vintage VWs to remain in the public eye and for interest in them to continue. However... This doesn't allow me to open my wallet and get what I want. If only!! Years and years of hard work, ducking and diving, saving and a very understanding bank manager is what it takes. I've always been into Vintage VWs, and owned plenty from Ovals, Lowlights and many stock 60's six volters along with a lovely Crew Cab and a stock 21 window. 20 years ago, I couldn't have even dreamed that one day I'd own the car being discussed here. But I've made it happen for myself and I'm over the moon. I knew the car before it was restored, I made sure it was featured in 1998 and I ALWAYS dreamed of owning it. Ask Sean how many times I told him I'd love to own it over the years. I kept it quiet about owning it, as I know there's a large element of our little world that would immediately think 'cheque book' and obviously, I didn't want to be tarred with that brush. I've always been admired people with really lovely VWs - especially a Rometsch, Heb or Schwimmer, but I don't look at them and think they own them because they haven't earned the right. I'd rather see someone who has gone all out to own the car of their dreams and for it to be a VW. I'll never point a negative finger in their direction. Oh, and by the way - Last Truimph's thread is cool - I am sure I commented as such on the thread. And, as I have said earlier in this thread, after 8 years in a lock-up, the Kab shared many of the same problems. And much though I tried, I couldn't get it back on the road in time for Peppercorn! Thanks for the kind words.

Posted by: Ivan - 08 September 2010 17:40:04
Also, I was desperate to get the car to VW Action as not enough Vintage VWs make it to the show. the fact it took Best of Show is good for the Vintage scene, IMHO

Posted by: 55Kab - 08 September 2010 19:24:49
Congratulations on opening your "chequebook"... :lol: Seriously, great car and it's good to have one as nice as this in the UK and out and about at UK events. I look forward to my ride to BC in it :!: :wink: :beer: (sorry Rich, a 52 Karmann is cooler than a 47 hardtop :lol: )

Posted by: GKL 7 - 08 September 2010 19:37:50
[quote=Ovaltine]Oh and of course and not to help himself:roll: Vintage VWs are the guys bread and butter his employment, the editor of a leading old Volkswagen magazine. If the interest in old VWs dies so does his job, which provides him with the means, (like seen elsewhere on this forum with other 'enthusiasts'), to open his wallet and get the VW he wants.[/quote] You must be Standardsplit in disguise.Let's hope you go the same way. I've witnessed Ivan in this hobby for years,tho' we only really met a few years ago.I am embarrassed by your comments Ovaltine. Totally out of order.

Posted by: Kev - 08 September 2010 22:38:45
[quote=55Kab]Congratulations on opening your "chequebook"... :lol: (sorry Rich, a 52 Karmann is cooler than a 47 hardtop :lol: ) [/quote] I am lucky to have best of both worlds :d although neither of my cars are in the same league today :lol: Welcome to the pre Oct '52 Karmann club Ivan :beer: not many of us in the UK. Beautiful car, I have wanted to see it in the flesh since it was in Volksworld all those years ago, I've not met Sean but Reinhold is a lovely guy (with a very cool Heb)8) Look forward to seeing the car at the REME meet, just down the road from me !

Posted by: Kev - 08 September 2010 22:44:08
[quote=Ivan]You speak a lot of truth, of course it is in my interest for Vintage VWs to remain in the public eye and for interest in them to continue. However... This doesn't allow me to open my wallet and get what I want. If only!! Years and years of hard work, ducking and diving, saving and a very understanding bank manager is what it takes. I've always been into Vintage VWs, and owned plenty from Ovals, Lowlights and many stock 60's six volters along with a lovely Crew Cab and a stock 21 window. 20 years ago, I couldn't have even dreamed that one day I'd own the car being discussed here. But I've made it happen for myself and I'm over the moon. I knew the car before it was restored, I made sure it was featured in 1998 and I ALWAYS dreamed of owning it. Ask Sean how many times I told him I'd love to own it over the years. I kept it quiet about owning it, as I know there's a large element of our little world that would immediately think 'cheque book' and obviously, I didn't want to be tarred with that brush. I've always been admired people with really lovely VWs - especially a Rometsch, Heb or Schwimmer, but I don't look at them and think they own them because they haven't earned the right. I'd rather see someone who has gone all out to own the car of their dreams and for it to be a VW. I'll never point a negative finger in their direction. Oh, and by the way - Last Truimph's thread is cool - I am sure I commented as such on the thread. And, as I have said earlier in this thread, after 8 years in a lock-up, the Kab shared many of the same problems. And much though I tried, I couldn't get it back on the road in time for Peppercorn! Thanks for the kind words.[/quote] I don't think you need to justify yourself to anyone, does Ovaltine even know you ? Getting back on topic - any pics of the car before resto you want to share ?

Posted by: mrsherbie - 08 September 2010 23:14:34
Congrats what a great car. Be nice to see it [i]not[/i] get cal-plebbed. "not enough vintage vws attend action" There are 2 obvious answers to that one, one starts with Brian and the other ends in Pod :lol: To everyone else from me, dont forget that stock does'nt come any more honest and less turncoat than Standard Split and Ovaltine, and they have been around vws longer than the majority and this [i]is[/i] a stock forum so they are entitled to their opinion as much as the rest of us in my view.

Posted by: 54 Gertie - 09 September 2010 00:00:05
[quote=mrsherbie]Congrats what a great car. Be nice to see it [i]not[/i] get cal-plebbed? "not enough vintage vws attend action" There are 2 obvious answers to that one, one starts with Brian and the other ends in Pod :lol: To everyone else from me, dont forget that stock does'nt come any more honest and less turncoat than Standard Split and Ovaltine, and this [i]is[/i] a stock forum so they are entitled to their opinion as much as the rest of us. [/quote] [i]Cal-plebbed.[/i] :lol: Anyway, having been to this years Action I can safely say it is a good show. And that's coming from someone who's favourite shows are Lavenham, Peppercorn, H.O. etc.... I used to hear all the stories about people breaking into tents and yobs in transits at Bug Jam and the like, but this seemed to be a completely different type of show. Very relaxed, with some very nice (some stock, some modified) cars on display.

Posted by: GKL 7 - 09 September 2010 00:06:24
[quote=54 Gertie] I used to hear all the stories about people breaking into tents [/quote] :lol: :lol: :lol: Skilled work that is,master burglary.

Posted by: 54 Gertie - 09 September 2010 00:20:47
[quote='50 Karmann]:lol: :lol: :lol: Skilled work that is,master burglary. [/quote] I should have said 'People breaking into S**tscreens'. :wink:

Posted by: 55Kab - 09 September 2010 02:30:43
[quote='50 Karmann]I've witnessed Ivan in this hobby for years,tho' we only really met a few years ago.I am embarrassed by your comments Ovaltine. Totally out of order. [/quote] Have to agree with you on that. As the saying goes...if you've got nothing nice to say, don't say it at all...

Posted by: 64rotbox - 09 September 2010 03:02:12
[quote='50 Karmann]Totally out of order. [/quote] Perhaps he's gearing up to become a moderator on ***. [quote=Ivan]I kept it quiet about owning it, as I know there's a large element of our little world that would immediately think 'cheque book' and obviously, I didn't want to be tarred with that brush.[/quote] Sod 'em. However, it's those sorts of people who ensure that - despite all the plus points - I'd never, ever want your job. Right. Anyone got a tissue so I can wipe my nose?

Posted by: RockStock - 09 September 2010 10:43:14
congratulations Ivan:beer: . hope to see the kab at REME

Posted by: 48REME - 09 September 2010 11:41:21
[quote='50 Karmann]You must be Standardsplit in disguise.Let's hope you go the same way. I've witnessed Ivan in this hobby for years,tho' we only really met a few years ago.I am embarrassed by your comments Ovaltine. Totally out of order. [/quote] I totally agree...what a sad, creepy little jealous nerd. It's people like this which puts me off participating in this forum anymore. I say, Ivan have fun with your beautiful new toy and drive with the hood down with a big smile on your face!

Posted by: mrsherbie - 09 September 2010 12:03:15
I know :idea: Lets ostracize 2 REAL GENUINE stock enthusiasts and regular long term contributors to this forum, (standard split & Ovaltine) over a guy who never posts here as he spends all his time playing cal look, but just because he has now bought a special stock car is your new best buddy! :roll: :lol:

Posted by: 64rotbox - 09 September 2010 12:23:39
I know. :idea: Why don't we get an ignore function on here? *stupid icon stupid icon stupid icon*

Posted by: pre67vw - 09 September 2010 12:27:49
[quote=48REME]It's people like this which puts me off participating in this forum anymore.[/quote] Me to...

Posted by: JD - 09 September 2010 12:32:07
[quote=mrsherbie]I know :idea: Lets ostracize 2 REAL GENUINE stock enthusiasts and regular long term contributors to this forum, (standard split & Ovaltine) over a guy who never posts here as he spends all his time playing cal look, but just because he has now bought a special stock car is your new best buddy! :roll: :lol: [/quote] Sounds like a plan to me.:lol: I don´t get the whole "chequebook" thing BTW. It´s not like they give these cars away. Any time you see one, you know it´s cost someone a lot of money (or they bought it in 1971). So what? It´s the same for any classic cars - it´s not a poor mans hobby.

Posted by: OOC - 09 September 2010 13:48:12
[quote=48REME]I totally agree...what a sad, creepy little jealous nerd. It's people like this which puts me off participating in this forum anymore. I say, Ivan have fun with your beautiful new toy and drive with the hood down with a big smile on your face![/quote] well said Nicolas :wink: that's why we [b]don't[/b] post, we would rather play with our toys than talk B****cks :roll:

Posted by: pre67vw - 09 September 2010 14:03:31
[quote=OOC] that's why we [b]don't[/b] post [/quote] ha! But you just did 8) :twisted:

Posted by: dp - 09 September 2010 14:39:17
[quote=mrsherbie]I know :idea: Lets ostracize 2 REAL GENUINE stock enthusiasts and regular long term contributors to this forum, (standard split & Ovaltine) over a guy who never posts here as he spends all his time playing cal look, but just because he has now bought a special stock car is your new best buddy! :roll: :lol: [/quote] The problem is that while they may have a lot of knowledge and are passionate about the stock side of the hobby, they're actions only serve to reduce outside interest in it, and reduce participation from others who already have an interest in it. Back on topic: Having dug out the original Volksworld feature (from an issue where the feature cars were all stock), something I didn't remember was the car had nodding semaphores. I'm sure I've read that semaphores that 'nod' are from emergency vehicles - is this true, and does that mean the semaphores on this car are from an emergency services split or early oval cab?

Posted by: Ovaltine - 09 September 2010 16:21:17
What a lot of pathetic rubbish has now flooded into this thread. The one sensible response is from the guy himself, Ivan. He acknowledges my observations, no nastyness or rubbish remarks. I take my hat off to his professionalism. It is his livelihood, and he agrees that it is in his personal interest to promote our hobby. Okay the wallet remark may be a little harsh as he has to earn his money (nice way to do it though!), but he is fortunate nonetheless. Some however do just seem to get what they want then act the big I am on these forums, thinking they are the top of the tree. My first ever post on pre67vw regarding 'Standard Tw*t' on the Rattletrap thread is an example. It is obvious that outside his job that Ivan loves old VWs, although I'd not consider him a regular stock purist with originality, though this new car is a collector's gem. I cant but wonder if he has a set of earlies waiting in his garage though.:wink: To the people that have said that they won't normally post on the forums because of whatever, well left to you there would be no forums. Adult sensible discussion, some strong disagreements too, I dislike crawlers myself though many here indulge in that activity. [quote=mrsherbie]I know :idea: Lets ostracize 2 REAL GENUINE stock enthusiasts and regular long term contributors to this forum, (standard split & Ovaltine) over a guy who never posts here as he spends all his time playing cal look, but just because he has now bought a special stock car is your new best buddy! :roll: :lol:[/quote] MrsHerbie is a person I'd love to meet at a VW show, a rare person here – talks sense.:beer: [quote=48REME]I totally agree...what a sad, creepy little jealous nerd. It's people like this which puts me off participating in this forum anymore. I say, Ivan have fun with your beautiful new toy and drive with the hood down with a big smile on your face![/quote] Not worth a sensible comment:roll: [quote='50 Karmann]You must be Standardsplit in disguise.Let's hope you go the same way.[/quote] As for this guy, sounds like his garden should be excavated :shock:

Posted by: Sunroof53 - 09 September 2010 17:59:15
What issue was the kab featured in when Sean geddes restored it?

Posted by: GKL 7 - 09 September 2010 20:13:53
[quote=mrsherbie]I know :idea: Lets ostracize 2 REAL GENUINE stock enthusiasts and regular long term contributors to this forum, (standard split & Ovaltine) over a guy who never posts here as he spends all his time playing cal look, but just because he has now bought a special stock car is your new best buddy! :roll: :lol: [/quote] That's the first time, Anna, i have seen you post total crap.Take offence if you must. Stop and think, a magazine needs to sell big numbers to survive, and if this enables Volksworld to then bring us some stock news and features then this is the price that must be paid.It's all about numbers.And unfortunately stock lovers are in the minority. Sorry,but you are defending an unknown,that prefares to remain anon,a keyboard gangsta who hides away making offensive posts.But not every one is all bad,apparently he's coming round to do my garden for me:roll:

Posted by: lou cypher - 09 September 2010 20:44:06
Hey George when he's finished yours send him over here :wink: our gardens could do with a tidy up :lol:

Posted by: 59 Ragtop - 09 September 2010 20:45:06
That's just a beautiful car,i'd certainly love to own it. Looking forward to seeing it at Stanford Hall maybe?.

Posted by: GKL 7 - 09 September 2010 21:17:15
[quote=lou cypher]Hey George when he's finished yours send him over here :wink: our gardens could do with a tidy up :lol: [/quote] WILL DO, LOU. Think i'll add him as a buddy if he does a good job :lol: :lol: :lol:

Posted by: 356boy - 10 September 2010 09:20:07
[quote=Ovaltine] MrsHerbie is a person I'd love to meet at a VW show, a rare person here – talks sense.:beer: [/quote] you wouldnt :lol:

Posted by: Rich Oakley - 10 September 2010 10:09:31
I am really looking forward to seeing Ivan's car at the REME museum- it's such a special car. However, there will also be another *new* Split-dash Kab there. This one has just emerged from a [i]very[/i] long hibernation somewhere in the British Isles and is unique. Be at the REME museum to find out more.

Posted by: mrsherbie - 10 September 2010 10:23:02
[quote='50 Karmann]Take offence if you must. [/quote] Oh you know you could never offend me :wink: especially over trivia. Anyway I like peoples differing opinions! Stock die-hards admittedly dont have the best skills at forum use I agree, as they dont waste all their time on forums/online like young people do, but they are still valuable contributors regardless of their opinions, and certainly far more interesting for me than playing the 'who's who in the vw scene buddy list game' that seems to go on an [i]awful [/i]lot [url=https://planetsmilies.net][img]https://planetsmilies.net/vomit-smiley-1538.gif[/img][/url]

Posted by: pre67vw - 10 September 2010 10:36:12
[quote=Ovaltine]What a lot of pathetic rubbish has now flooded into this thread. [/quote] You started it [-x :roll: [quote=Ovaltine] To the people that have said that they won't normally post on the forums because of whatever, well left to you there would be no forums. [/quote] Really? So it's down to people like you that we have forums? Well I'd just like to say a big thanks for all your hard work... :wink: [quote=Ovaltine] I dislike crawlers myself though many here indulge in that activity. [/quote] I wouldn't say I know Ivan but I first crossed paths with him in the Grundman VW museum at Hessisch Oldendorf where he was obviously very knowledgeable and enthusiastic about vintage VWs. But lets see if I get this right, here is a guy who puts regular vintage features in his magazine, travels long distances to visit foreign vintage shows and museums, now owns his own vintage VW - but if I say I think he likes vintage VW's then I'm a crawler? Anyway I have nothing to gain from Ivan by crawling, what's it going to get me a free subscription? [quote=Ovaltine] As for this guy, sounds like his garden should be excavated :shock: [/quote] Leave his garden alone. Seriously. :lol: :lol: now PLEASE... Can we leave all of this b*ll*cks out and get back to talking about VWs?

Posted by: JD - 10 September 2010 10:39:47
[quote=Rich Oakley]I am really looking forward to seeing Ivan's car at the REME museum- it's such a special car. However, there will also be another *new* Split-dash Kab there. This one has just emerged from a [i]very[/i] long hibernation somewhere in the British Isles and is unique. Be at the REME museum to find out more.[/quote] Like buses - you wait ages and then two come along at once! Good news any way you look at it.:d

Posted by: Ovaltine - 10 September 2010 13:18:28
[quote=48REME]... [b]jealous[/b].. I say, Ivan have fun with your beautiful new toy and drive with the hood down with a big smile on your face![/quote] Well no. I'd much rather have an early right hand drive Oval window saloon [-x [quote=pre67vw] Really? So it's down to people like you that we have forums? Well I'd just like to say a big thanks for all your hard work... :wink: ?[/quote] One does one's best:wink: [quote=pre67vw] Anyway I have nothing to gain from Ivan by crawling, what's it going to get me a free subscription?[/quote] It would suit me, easier than standing in WH Smiths and reading it each month:lol: [quote=pre67vw] Leave his garden alone. Seriously. :lol: :lol: [/quote] Might find Rattletrap buried there :twisted: One thing that I hope still binds us all together is our love of [b]pure stock[/b] vintage Beetles :beer: :wink:

Posted by: Ivan - 14 September 2010 14:49:26
[quote=Rich Oakley]I am really looking forward to seeing Ivan's car at the REME museum- it's such a special car. However, there will also be another *new* Split-dash Kab there. This one has just emerged from a [i]very[/i] long hibernation somewhere in the British Isles and is unique. Be at the REME museum to find out more.[/quote] O'Flaherty's one perhaps? The Right Hand Drive one :wink:

Posted by: Rich Oakley - 15 September 2010 09:57:20
[quote=Ivan]O'Flaherty's one perhaps? The Right Hand Drive one :wink: [/quote] Ja! Popped in to see Wayne last week when I was in Eire and he confirmed that it will be driving and road-legal. **EDIT:** Unfortunately, Wayne may not be able to make the meeting due to family circumstances.

Posted by: Ivan - 15 September 2010 15:32:27
[quote=Rich Oakley]Ja! Popped in to see Wayne last week when I was in Eire and he confirmed that it will be driving and road-legal. [/quote] It's a VERY important car as it was presented to O'Flaherty as a gift by VW and is said to be the only RHD one made. It hasn't been out of family ownership since new and this will be the first time it's seen outside of Ireland. I am really sorry if this sounds as though I know anything about Vintage VWs, especially one many had no idea existed. I'd better get off now before any of the self-appointed authorities on the subject of me notice I'm not playing cal look. :wink:

Posted by: Rich Oakley - 24 September 2010 09:24:02
Did I hear the news correctly yesterday regarding your Kab Ivan? :?: :?:

Posted by: Kev - 24 September 2010 20:17:41
Does this mean we have gone from two split dash Karmanns at the REME meet to none at all :roll: I was looking forward to seeing the Irish RHD car, anyone got any pics of it ?

Posted by: WayneMcCarthy - 24 September 2010 23:43:00
[quote=Rich Oakley]Did I hear the news correctly yesterday regarding your Kab Ivan? :?: :?: [/quote] can confirm I won't be able to travel this weekend , very disappointed as we have put alot of work into my '50 Split Kab ! Will post a thread soon on this very special car . What's the story on Ivan's car ? ? ? When I saw Ivan's Kab @ action it took my breath away 'what a car' it also has confused me as to what to do with my car , restore or just drive "as is"?

Posted by: 55Kab - 25 September 2010 09:25:16
[quote=Ivan]I'd better get off now before any of the self-appointed authorities on the subject of me notice I'm not playing cal look. :wink:[/quote] :lol: :lol:

Posted by: 55Kab - 25 September 2010 09:28:55
[quote=WayneMcCarthy]Will post a thread soon on this very special car[/quote] Waiting... :wink: [quote=WayneMcCarthy]what to do with my car , restore or just drive "as is"?[/quote] Without seeing it I would think drive as is Wayne.

Posted by: Kev - 25 September 2010 20:29:02
[quote=WayneMcCarthy]can confirm I won't be able to travel this weekend , very disappointed as we have put alot of work into my '50 Split Kab ! Will post a thread soon on this very special car . What's the story on Ivan's car ? ? ? When I saw Ivan's Kab @ action it took my breath away 'what a car' it also has confused me as to what to do with my car , restore or just drive "as is"?[/quote] Hi Wayne, I drive my Karmann as is (not this year mind you, I never got round to puting it through an MOT) but it really needs restoring which will happen at some point when I have the time and money, but we need to see your car to help you decide. Come on post some pics up I am desperate to see it :d Kev

Posted by: WayneMcCarthy - 25 September 2010 21:45:57
[quote=nev]Hi Wayne, I drive my Karmann as is (not this year mind you, I never got round to puting it through an MOT) but it really needs restoring which will happen at some point when I have the time and money, but we need to see your car to help you decide. Come on post some pics up I am desperate to see it :d Kev [/quote] Picture's All in Good Time , it's like courting a good looking Bird ! When she take's her cloth's off for the first time! (well let's just say you could be disappointed)

Posted by: WayneMcCarthy - 25 September 2010 21:50:55
[quote=55Kab]Waiting... :wink: Without seeing it I would think drive as is Wayne. [/quote] Martin , I think you could be right I might just Leave it! But After Seeing Your's (The Best Car By Along Way I have Ever Seen) That's Fact! I Might Go The Full Hog ....................

Posted by: JULIANROBINSON - 25 September 2010 22:17:23
[quote=JD]Wow!Beautiful.:shock: [img]https://i943.photobucket.com/albums/ad271/jrvwjr20102/VW%20ACTION%202010/wwwvwbugcouk-VWACTION2010286.jpg[/img] [IMG]https://i943.photobucket.com/albums/ad271/jrvwjr20102/VW%20ACTION%202010/wwwvwbugcouk-VWACTION201022.jpg[/IMG] Tell us more Ivan! [/quote] Beautiful car. Nice photos too :wink: that Ivan bloke is ok too :lol: 8)

Posted by: Ovaltine - 02 October 2010 13:34:02
[quote=JULIANROBINSON]Beautiful car. Nice photos too :wink: that Ivan bloke is ok too :lol: 8) [/quote] Oh MG, FFS. This thread has gone from being embarrassing to bad to desperately sad. I almost feel Ivan's embarrassment. He'd have been so much better off joining with an anonymous name without mentioning his magazine. This guy's name is in huge type on his pictures that he proclaims are so good. Why does he need to keep listing his entire collection of cars too. This sort of bragging is really just the sort of thing thats ruining the hobby, and will turn away newcomers from this site:x :x

Posted by: Si Med - 02 October 2010 16:18:57
[quote=Ovaltine]Oh MG, FFS. This sort of bragging is really just the sort of thing thats ruining the hobby, and will turn away newcomers from this site:x :x [/quote] I don't think its that bad lol! :lol:

Posted by: JD - 02 October 2010 16:41:46
[quote=Si Med]I don't think its that bad lol! :lol: [/quote] Don´t feed the troll Si! It´s what he wants.

Posted by: pre67vw - 02 October 2010 17:04:58
[quote=Ovaltine]This thread has gone from being embarrassing to bad to desperately sad. [/quote] Nope, still at the embarrassing stage - thanks to you... [-x

Posted by: GKL 7 - 02 October 2010 17:32:07
[quote=pre67vw]Nope, still at the embarrassing stage - thanks to you... [-x [/quote] [ATTACH]4956[/Attach]

Posted by: 65deluxe - 03 October 2010 15:16:20
Ivan - Love the car buddy . Any chance of you posting some pictures up for us Let me know when you get a roof rack so you can take one of my bikes to shows on it . [IMG]https://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/65-deluxe/new%20lowrider/IMG_1637.jpg[/IMG] Just in case I upset someone - There were no old bikes damaged in the making of this one !!!

Posted by: JD - 03 October 2010 18:39:51
[quote=65deluxe]Ivan - Love the car buddy . Any chance of you posting some pictures up for us Let me know when you get a roof rack so you can take one of my bikes to shows on it . Just in case I upset someone - There were no old bikes damaged in the making of this one !!![/quote] A Kabrio roof rack? Yeah, those really are tough to find!:lol:

Posted by: Kev - 04 October 2010 21:53:43
[quote=65deluxe]Ivan - Love the car buddy . Any chance of you posting some pictures up for us Let me know when you get a roof rack so you can take one of my bikes to shows on it . [IMG]https://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/65-deluxe/new%20lowrider/IMG_1637.jpg[/IMG] Just in case I upset someone - There were no old bikes damaged in the making of this one !!![/quote] i think the car's been flipped already :wink: but I would still like to see the pre resto pics Ivan mentioned !

Posted by: Caledfryn - 04 October 2010 23:17:52
[quote=Ovaltine]Oh MG, FFS. This thread has gone from being embarrassing to bad to desperately sad. I almost feel Ivan's embarrassment. He'd have been so much better off joining with an anonymous name without mentioning his magazine. This guy's name is in huge type on his pictures that he proclaims are so good. Why does he need to keep listing his entire collection of cars too. This sort of bragging is really just the sort of thing thats ruining the hobby, and will turn away newcomers from this site:x :x [/quote] Sorry ... but can I call a spade a complete dickhead?

Posted by: heb623 - 10 October 2010 16:13:58
[quote=Ivan]Colour scheme is Karmann correct. [/quote] Ivan, where did you get this information from?:oops: Does this information also tells the color schemes of 1953 Karmann beetles? What about the interior colors? Thanks in advance :twisted: ET

Posted by: Ovaltine - 16 October 2010 13:26:05
[quote=Caledfryn]Sorry ... but can I call a spade a complete dickhead?[/quote] Nice comment - wrong site this isn't Vokszone[-x

Posted by: mrsherbie - 16 October 2010 16:54:39
[quote=Ivan]I ALWAYS dreamed of owning it. Ask Sean how many times I told him I'd love to own it over the years.[/quote] [quote=nev]i think the car's been flipped already :wink:[/quote] No surely you must be wrong? But if not. I guess most of you (except Ovaltine of course) might fancy a snack then? [img]https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/mrsherbie/humblepie.jpg[/img] :lol:

Posted by: 64rotbox - 17 October 2010 15:30:38
After the unbelievably shitty comments from certain people (or should that be person) on this thread, I wouldn't blame him if he has gotten rid of it.

Posted by: Caledfryn - 17 October 2010 21:14:59
[quote=Ovaltine]Nice comment - wrong site this isn't Vokszone[-x [/quote] Thanks! Took you long enough to respond didn't it? It was almost like you'd been booted off here for being an arse. Oh, hang on, you [b]were [/b]booted off for being an arse!

Posted by: Ovaltine - 21 October 2010 16:02:23
[quote=mrsherbie]No surely you must be wrong? But if not. I guess most of you (except Ovaltine of course) might fancy a snack then? :lol: [/quote] Yet again it's the girls with the intuition and sense. It was either going to be flipped or slammed and put on 'earlies'. Sore knees all round you lot except for mrsherbie!:beer: [quote=64rotbox]After the unbelievably shitty comments from certain people (or should that be person) on this thread, I wouldn't blame him if he has gotten rid of it.[/quote] Really – so you'd sell your life time's dream because of some comments made on a forum. Ivan didn't even start this thread off.:roll: [quote=Caledfryn]Thanks! Took you long enough to respond didn't it? It was almost like you'd been booted off here for being an arse. Oh, hang on, youwere booted off for being an arse![/quote] Being an arse? – look at the outcome of this thread's subject.:wink: As good as this site is, I find it odd that somepeople are constantly on it every day. So much on the web too, and so much in life :?

Posted by: pre67vw - 21 October 2010 16:38:39
We'll have to wait and see, I heard Ivan get asked if it was flipped and he said that it was still safely in his posession. However, if he got offered the amount of cash I heard rumoured then he'd be more committed than me if he didn't take it. I'd love to see it slammed :lol: :beer: :beer:

Posted by: 55Kab - 21 October 2010 17:52:04
[quote=pre67vw]I'd love to see it slammed :lol: :beer: :beer: [/quote] Okay...now you're talking :!: :beer: Do it Ivan, we can sort it out DBK style... :wink:

Posted by: Trailer Queen Restos - 22 October 2010 23:25:56
Or, he could go all out Resto and do it GFK style,lmao :wink:

Posted by: Si Med - 22 October 2010 23:41:51
[quote=Trailer Queen Restos]Or, he could go all out Resto and do it GFK style,lmao :wink:[/quote] :d :beer: 8)

Posted by: fpr936e - 27 October 2010 21:33:41
The snobbery of this site really takes the biscuit. My mum used to work in a large music archive, her boss was so snobby about the records and gold disks that the archive held that she did not want to show anyone round or let anyone in.Might as well not have existed. I don't care who owns a VW, when I see a nice VW there is always a part of me that is jealous, I admit it, but it doesnt screw me up or make me bitter. What I'd love to see are some close ups of the detail of the car, the sort of pictures that would never make volksworld because they are too specific. I personally want something new in volksworld, like beetles being used for everyday, how they fair and how to keep the rust at bay from practical experience. My car is a 67 1500, I built it and love driving it all year round, a vintage buff may pick it apart but I really have better things to do with the car.......like drive it

Posted by: JD - 27 October 2010 23:04:30
[quote=fpr936e]The snobbery of this site really takes the biscuit.[/quote] Eh? :( Who is this aimed at?

Posted by: fpr936e - 27 October 2010 23:08:53
not at you.

Posted by: JD - 27 October 2010 23:17:42
[quote=fpr936e]not at you.[/quote] Well thanks for that, but please don´t tar us all with the same brush. I don´t know why this placed gets labelled as snobby (aside from the horribly, disgustingly, elitist arbitrary cut-off date of 67 and earlier :wink: ), but it´s getting on my nerves a bit. I can think of several VW sites that are a lot more up themselves than this one.

Posted by: fpr936e - 27 October 2010 23:23:13
I like standard vws, but then I like well engineered projects and I respect part substitution when the aim is to drive the car on modern roads.

Posted by: JD - 27 October 2010 23:31:25
[quote=fpr936e]I like standard vws, but then I like well engineered projects and I respect part substitution when the aim is to drive the car on modern roads.[/quote] So do I. So do most folks on here, but this isn´t always the place to talk about a lot of that sort of stuff, as its more of a restoration based forum. Doesn´t mean we don´t like it though.:d

Posted by: fpr936e - 27 October 2010 23:41:49
good:d

Posted by: 54 Gertie - 28 October 2010 00:49:16
[quote=JD]So do I. So do most folks on here, but this isn´t always the place to talk about a lot of that sort of stuff, as its more of a restoration based forum. Doesn´t mean we don´t like it though.:d [/quote] Exactly, on here I ask about the correct distance between spot welds, and on VZi I talk about jet propelled amphi-bugs. :wink:

Posted by: 64rotbox - 28 October 2010 01:35:41
[quote=fpr936e]not at you.[/quote] Who, then? You'll have to help us out a bit, here. Or are you confusing 'personal taste' with 'snobbery'?

Posted by: JD - 28 October 2010 09:01:47
[quote=54 Gertie]Exactly, on here I ask about the correct distance between spot welds, and on VZi I talk about jet propelled amphi-bugs. :wink: [/quote] With me! (Horrido):beer: :lol: :lol:

Posted by: pre67vw - 28 October 2010 10:40:19
[quote=fpr936e]I like standard vws, but then I like well engineered projects and I respect part substitution when the aim is to drive the car on modern roads.[/quote] Me to and I own the place :wink: , but like others have said - this is the place more for the stock side of things - not because we're elitist but because otherwise what would be the point of just another VW forum?

Posted by: fpr936e - 28 October 2010 11:05:06
very simple, I like the look of Ivans car an want to know more about it, not how large his wallet must have been or not. Plus rattletrap, I want to know more about how the story is unfolding in terms of its repair, Tony used to live down my road when I was a child. Thats all, just interested in things like this and not really interested in people who rubbish other peoples cars

Posted by: pre67vw - 28 October 2010 11:15:56
[quote=fpr936e]very simple, I like the look of Ivans car an want to know more about it, not how large his wallet must have been or not. [/quote] Agree 100%. [quote=fpr936e]not really interested in people who rubbish other peoples cars[/quote] Me neither.

Posted by: 54 Gertie - 28 October 2010 14:16:09
[quote=JD]With me! (Horrido):beer: :lol: :lol: [/quote] :wink:

Posted by: Ovaltine - 29 October 2010 10:23:32
[quote=fpr936e]The snobbery of this site really takes the biscuit.[/quote] This underlines to some extent my post on page 1 of this thread, but nonetheless half the guys here 'jumped on me':? [quote=pre67vw]Me to and I own the place :wink: , but like others have said - this is the place more for the stock side of things - not because we're elitist but because otherwise what would be the point of just another VW forum?[/quote] And a credit it is to you too. But a little impartiality please, it is a public site, and we don't all see things the same way.:wink: [quote=fpr936e]Plus rattletrap, I want to know more about how the story is unfolding in terms of its repair, Tony used to live down my road when I was a child. Thats all, just interested in things like this and not really interested in people who rubbish other peoples cars[/quote] x2 Ah yes Rattletrap, the very thread that drew me to pre67vw. There are really great resto and rebuild threads happening on the forums,(nothing under pre53?)but if it all goes that way it gets heavy reading. A little light-hearted stuff is needed too - Rattletrap is just the tonic. Can the lock be removed, its now been 3 months, I bet there's heaps more stuff out there waiting to be added by people. I've found a good pic but can't post it:( The pre 53 section is looking a little like someone's personal classifieds:o

Posted by: pre67vw - 29 October 2010 11:26:26
[quote=Ovaltine]This underlines to some extent my post on page 1 of this thread, but nonetheless half the guys here 'jumped on me':? [/quote] I'm not sure if what you 'think' and what you 'write' are two completely different things, but that's certainly not what comes accross to me from your post on page 1... [quote=Ovaltine] And a credit it is to you too.[/quote] Thanks 8) [quote=Ovaltine] But a little impartiality please, it is a public site, and we don't all see things the same way.:wink: [/quote] I am impartial, there are many people who have expressed opinions that I don't agree with. But don't mistake this as some kind of free for all, it may be a public site but that's no excuse for personal insults or other derogatory remarks and I will/do delete posts that I find offensive or disrespectful (or that get flagged to me as such). [quote=Ovaltine] Can the lock be removed, its now been 3 months[/quote] Nope. I don't think that there's anything new that could be added to that thread, just adding more photos of the car isn't enough.

Posted by: GKL 7 - 29 October 2010 17:00:19
:? On the whole of the first page of the pre '53 discussion forum,only two threads have been started by the same poster,i can't see how any individual could be accused of using it as a "personal classifieds page":?

Posted by: Ovaltine - 30 October 2010 13:21:18
[quote=pre67vw]I'm not sure if what you 'think' and what you 'write' are two completely different things, but that's certainly not what comes accross to me from your post on page 1... I am impartial, there are many people who have expressed opinions that I don't agree with. But don't mistake this as some kind of free for all, it may be a public site but that's no excuse for personal insults or other derogatory remarks and I will/do delete posts that I find offensive or disrespectful (or that get flagged to me as such).[/quote] 1) Snobbery is certainly hinted at as a point in my first post regarding Ivan's car. The way some people here crawled around on their knees because of his Volksworld connection is awful and really off-putting. This thread is an embarrassment from the off. Suggestions even made that this site should move into mildly customised VWs because Volksworld has bits on stock vintage VWs:x 2) I was banned for voicing an opinion, and although the post contained no bad language or threats it was deleted[-x

Posted by: GKL 7 - 30 October 2010 14:40:39
[quote=Ovaltine]1) The way some people here crawled around on their knees because of his Volksworld connection is awful and really off-putting.[/quote] Have you ever stopped to think that those "people" know Ivan well enough to see his love for all things VW,Volksworld doesn't come into the matter. Not many that know him would stand back and see him take undue criticism.His love of the hobby is very broad,is that a crime?

Posted by: pre67vw - 31 October 2010 07:42:33
[quote=Ovaltine]1) Snobbery is certainly hinted at as a point in my first post regarding Ivan's car. The way some people here crawled around on their knees because of his Volksworld connection is awful and really off-putting. This thread is an embarrassment from the off. Suggestions even made that this site should move into mildly customised VWs because Volksworld has bits on stock vintage VWs:x 2) I was banned for voicing an opinion, and although the post contained no bad language or threats it was deleted[-x [/quote] I'll try to put this as politely as possible. I think you need to look back at all of your posts, not just on this thread but others as well and see what your contribution to the forum has been. Take a look at how much practical advice you've given and how many people have appreciated your comments, then take a look at how many comments have been negative or intending to stir up an argument, or are just plain rude, then hopefully you might understand why you were banned and why you're headed that way again. I would generally rather see posts about modified cars than any of your posts. I suggest that you post up a few photos of your car, so we can see what a perfect car should be. And in future, remember this little tip - if you can't say something nice then don't say anything at all

Posted by: lou cypher - 31 October 2010 08:54:20
[quote=pre67vw]I'll try to put this as politely as possible. I think you need to look back at all of your posts, not just on this thread but others as well and see what your contribution to the forum has been. Take a look at how much practical advice you've given and how many people have appreciated your comments, then take a look at how many comments have been negative or intending to stir up an argument, or are just plain rude, then hopefully you might understand why you were banned and why you're headed that way again. I would generally rather see posts about modified cars than any of your posts. I suggest that you post up a few photos of your car, so we can see what a perfect car should be. And in future, remember this little tip - if you can't say something nice then don't say anything at all [/quote] Well said Rob :lol: I've been following this thread for a while now and been amazed at the total B****hit that has been posted by one induvidaul about Ivan's car :roll: First of all I have nothing to gain by so called "brown nosing" Ivan, I have known him for over 15 years and I can tell you he wasn't born with a silver spoon in his mouth and has worked very hard for what he has. It is also true that he has wanted to buy this car for many years. Is that a crime wanting a Split Kab then? Whether he paid cash for his Kab or got a bank loan, is that really anyones business except his. That really is a nice car he has, I knew the car from way back when, when Shaun first did the resto job, back then it was much more difficult to find the parts as there wasn't all the companies producing top repro parts...... I guess from all your derogatory remarks that you too would like a split, but due to the current market prices of these cars has put them out of most peoples price range within the hobby, you included.....or maybe you have a "special one" all us Split boys don't know of :roll: Like in your signature "The way to end a good day out with your Split is with an Ovaltine!" well I would personally like to see a picture of your "special" split you drive before your Ovaltine. Hell I'll even get Herr Dokotor to send you an invite to the Cannonball Challenge so you can put your money were your keyboard is :shock: But then again I guess your just happy to stay behind your keyboard mouthing off.......

Posted by: Ovaltine - 03 November 2010 18:39:35
[quote=pre67vw]I'll try to put this as politely as possible. I think you need to look back at all of your posts, not just on this thread but others as well and see what your contribution to the forum has been. Take a look at how much practical advice you've given and how many people have appreciated your comments, then take a look at how many comments have been negative or intending to stir up an argument, or are just plain rude, then hopefully you might understand why you were banned and why you're headed that way again. .... I suggest that you post up a few photos of your car, so we can see what a perfect car should be. And in future, remember this little tip - if you can't say something nice then don't say anything at all [/quote] In reply to your post: I've had nothing but praise for threads like 55 Kab's resto, Last Triumph's Oval re-comission and Robb's 67 1500 restoration. It was I who defended the late Tony Levy amid the untrue, unfair bad comments made against him by 'enthusiasts' here. I doubt that his car will be displayed at Lavenham (unless guarded 24) because of a threat posted by a member here, I quote that post: 'will take his action when Rattletrap's at Lavenham'. This site was then closed-down and the threat deleted. I've made posts offering advice and asking questions – you've just not read them. As far as Ivan's car thread is concerned, I was not criticising Ivan, indeed I remarked on his professionalism with his replies. There's no attempt by me to 'stir it up', a few people here seem unable to take criticism. I love my old Bug, but its a 1970 and a scruffy one at that, its certainly far from perfect. It would be very easy just to post rude personal comments or post bad language, but I've just expressed personal views, it is a forum isn't it? [quote=lou cypher]Well said Rob :lol: I've been following this thread for a while now and been amazed at the total B****hit that has been posted by one induvidaul about Ivan's car :roll: First of all I have nothing to gain by so called "brown nosing" Ivan, I have known him for over 15 years and I can tell you he wasn't born with a silver spoon in his mouth and has worked very hard for what he has. It is also true that he has wanted to buy this car for many years. Is that a crime wanting a Split Kab then? Whether he paid cash for his Kab or got a bank loan, is that really anyones business except his. That really is a nice car he has, I knew the car from way back when, when Shaun first did the resto job, back then it was much more difficult to find the parts as there wasn't all the companies producing top repro parts...... I guess from all your derogatory remarks that you too would like a split, but due to the current market prices of these cars has put them out of most peoples price range within the hobby, you included.....or maybe you have a "special one" all us Split boys don't know of :roll: Like in your signature "The way to end a good day out with your Split is with an Ovaltine!" well I would personally like to see a picture of your "special" split you drive before your Ovaltine. Hell I'll even get Herr Dokotor to send you an invite to the Cannonball Challenge so you can put your money were your keyboard is :shock: But then again I guess your just happy to stay behind your keyboard mouthing off.......[/quote] My comments were about this thread NOT IVAN'S CAR! If you read my posts properly then you'll see that I've not made comments against Ivan or his (was his?) smashing car. I DID think he'd either flip it or lower it. It's his car and his property to do whatever with, although I hate the idea of vintage Beetles for gain, it keeps many of us out because of spiralling prices. Ivan did not begin this ridiculous thread, this is all here through no fault of his. If you'd read through properly you'd see that I sympathised with him and shared his embarrassment. You will also note that I am certainly not alone in my criticism of this thread. Current market prices for Splits are beyond the reach of many of us. Most are abroad anyway, and the few here are recent imports from Sweden. A split with a long stretch of UK history is one I would like, but they're like hen's teeth. Rattletrap turned up for sale at an amazing price for such a famous UK car. I love this car a lot, I have such fond memories of Rattletrap at shows in the 1970s-80s with Tony Levy, but it sold within hours to Standardsplit who just opened his wallet, and who already owns a Split. Its very frustrating. 'us Split boys', you say, well that sums up the whole thing for me, – I'm not one of the gang, in the group. What about girls, Mrs Herbie has at least two split windows.

Posted by: pre67vw - 03 November 2010 19:06:35
[quote=Ovaltine] There's no attempt by me to 'stir it up', a few people here seem unable to take criticism. [/quote] OK whatever. You should be aware that I've had several requests to just permanently ban you for stirring up trouble, so if you're here to make some VW friends then something is going wrong somewhere. If you're not... leave. I also don't know why you keep bringing up past arguments, they're gone, deleted and we've moved on - I suggest you do the same. Personally if I was to write a list of the top 100 VWs I'd like to see, Rattletrap wouldn't be on it, but if that car means something to you then get in touch with the owner and go have a look at it.