It getting closer to the date but dose any one know how its going to work? Other Exempt vehicals you have to fill in a form a v112 i think to show the post office when you tax the vehicle. Do owners need to fill this in or is there another form to be filled out or is VOSA going to send all pre 60s vehicles some sort of document???????
Andy W
Posted by: lifeintheslowlane - 21 August 2012 08:57:16
As they say on QI..."Nobody Knows!!"
I don't know if Robin Allen is reading this...if you are Robin, any news?
Posted by: AW - 18 September 2012 16:09:01
Talking to a friend who ownes and sells classic cars and he phoned the DVLA last week about the situation one mot Exemption registration and guess whet thay dont know :omg:
Andy W
Posted by: Cool Splitty - 20 September 2012 15:09:35
cars b4 1960 xempt from mot test whatever their orignalty.
cars over 30 yrs 2b xempt only if they ar orignal spec.
if moded they can stil b used on the road but stil have to have a mot test. SIMPLES
Free tax disc only for b4 1973 stays same
My mates a mot tester he now has this info so forget other silly posts here an on other threds on this site:p
Posted by: lifeintheslowlane - 15 November 2012 11:24:05
So it's November and there's no dancing in the street. Anyone tried renewing their Road Tax online?
Edit: OK so I did a search and here's the definitive news: https://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/repository/Special%20Notice%205-12.pdf
From that linked document here's what is said:
[quote][b]Item 3: Pre 1960 Exemption From MOT[/b]
From 18 November 2012 classic and historic vehicles, those manufactured before 1 January 1960, will be exempted from the MOT test.
Classic and historic vehicles are often very well maintained by their owners and have a much lower accident and MOT failure rate than newer vehicles. The current requirement to undergo an MOT test goes over and above the obligations set out in European legislation. Following a public consultation which showed high levels of support for the proposals, vehicles manufactured before 1960 will be exempted from the MOT test from 18th November 2012 reducing costs for owners.
Owners of affected vehicles will still be able to take exempt vehicles for an MOT test on a voluntary basis.
If you are presented with any of these vehicles you should continue to conduct the test as for any other vehicle and apply the appropriate pass/fail criteria as set out in the Inspection Manuals.[/quote]
Posted by: AW - 15 November 2012 11:39:09
Up to now i have form V112 that was given to me by the post office to fill in but i am hanging back from sending it off as this is the form for the vehicles that dont need MOTs already. just waiting to see what happens on the 18th as who ever i ask in aurthoraty i get a different answer to the question :x I asked a tester and as with the volantary test i was told that he couldnot issue a test cert as it will be exempt from the system !!!!! I wonder if this has now changed?
Andy W
Posted by: lifeintheslowlane - 15 November 2012 11:51:59
[quote=AW]Up to now i have form V112 that was given to me by the post office to fill in but i am hanging back from sending it off as this is the form for the vehicles that dont need MOTs already. just waiting to see what happens on the 18th as who ever i ask in aurthoraty i get a different answer to the question :x I asked a tester and as with the volantary test i was told that he could not issue a test cert as it will be exempt from the system !!!!! I wonder if this has now changed?
Andy W[/quote]
I think if that were intended to cover all pre 1960 vehicles they would have replaced that form with an updated version. Nowhere does it mention pre 1960.
If you renew your tax online it will automatically know the year of manufacture and just check for relevant insurance cover, just as it does with a car that's less than 3 years old.
Posted by: AW - 15 November 2012 12:05:18
Good point John about the auto system when doing it on line its just seems that the post offices have been left in the dark on how it is all going to work :o Good luck and let us all know how it turns out. On a different tack i read on a fourm about insurence if it is to be belived some one asked Lancaster about a pre 60 car and thay told him £75 with a test £2000 without one :omg: Any one asked the question with there insures.
Andy W
Posted by: lifeintheslowlane - 15 November 2012 12:18:29
[quote=AW]Good point John about the auto system when doing it on line its just seems that the post offices have been left in the dark on how it is all going to work :o Good luck and let us all know how it turns out. On a different tack i read on a fourm about insurence if it is to be belived some one asked Lancaster about a pre 60 car and thay told him £75 with a test £2000 without one :omg: Any one asked the question with there insures.
Andy W[/quote]
I think that would be illegal to discriminate against a car that meets all the legal UK requirements; in reality it's probably BS. Especially as the exemption ruling states one of the reason for the exemption is: "Classic and historic vehicles are often very well maintained by their owners and have a much lower accident and MOT failure rate than newer vehicles." So what's their statistical reasoning for a heavy insurance loading. The Insurance ombudsman would knock than on the head pretty quickly.
Anyway Insurance is a very competitive business, just shopping around you'd soon find a company who didn't impose a loading.
Posted by: six-o-one - 15 November 2012 13:11:41
I've just spoken to someone at Footman James Insurance. No plans to offer any sort of discount for vehicles with a voluntary MOT and in the event of an accident, an insurance assessor can decide if a vehicle is unroadworthy regardless of having an MOT so, they don't see much changing. - they just wont pay out!
Posted by: AW - 15 November 2012 13:21:17
Thay wont Pay out ------- Nothing changed there then.
Andy W
Posted by: billy739 - 16 November 2012 09:40:17
you just need to fill in the mot expemtion form
presumable each year!
online they know so you just eamil with the reg and they send you a taxdisc i presume!
there was a post up on a landrover forum , offcial letter from DVLA or VOSA but as usual i cant find it now!
Posted by: pipvan - 18 November 2012 15:57:05
Any updates guys, I have just renewed my insurance today and price is down 20 quid from last year and they did not mention anything about it changing because it was pre 60. My mot runs out in 2 weeks but I taxed it last week. I'm just going to re mot ad continue as normal, as at least with an mot cert it's just a bit more proof of mileage and so on so for. But would still be nice to know officially what the crack is. As if I miss getting it to the garage until the day after my Mot runs out and I get pulled over by the police, how would it stand ????
Posted by: lifeintheslowlane - 18 November 2012 16:10:41
[quote=pipvan]Any updates guys, I have just renewed my insurance today and price is down 20 quid from last year and they did not mention anything about it changing because it was pre 60. My mot runs out in 2 weeks but I taxed it last week. I'm just going to re mot ad continue as normal, as at least with an mot cert it's just a bit more proof of mileage and so on so for. But would still be nice to know officially what the crack is. As if I miss getting it to the garage until the day after my Mot runs out and I get pulled over by the police, how would it stand ????[/quote]
Well according to the government website linked in one of my previous posts an MOT certificate will not be required on pre '60 vehicles from midnight tonight. The chances of being pulled over by the police in 2 weeks time is pretty well zero.
Posted by: AW - 18 November 2012 17:14:53
As far as i have got is just go down to the post office with your insurance and log book and its all on the computer listings :shock: Who will be the first to try it at there local tax office. 8)
Andy W
Posted by: GKL 7 - 18 November 2012 18:23:27
Just go on-line,no need to go anywhere.
Posted by: lifeintheslowlane - 18 November 2012 18:35:43
[quote=GKL 7]Just go on-line,no need to go anywhere.[/quote]
Yep I can't remember when I last renewed my car tax at a Post Office...total waste of time.
Posted by: AW - 18 November 2012 20:59:30
Strongly disagree with it being a total waist of time. I like to use the local post Office. As thay tell us use it or Loose it.
Andy W
Posted by: JULIANROBINSON - 18 November 2012 21:19:51
I've taxed two ovals today - online.
Neither have an MOT.
:D
Posted by: lifeintheslowlane - 18 November 2012 22:13:22
[quote=AW]Strongly disagree with it being a total waist of time. I like to use the local post Office. As thay tell us use it or Loose it.
Andy W[/quote]
I didn't say don't use your Post Office...I'm just talking about Car Tax. I'm very well known at my local Post Office; I'm there several times a week. Two packages on Friday...one to the U.S. and one to Canada.
Posted by: AW - 18 November 2012 22:16:16
[quote=lifeintheslowlane]I didn't say don't use your Post Office...I'm just talking about Car Tax. I'm very well known at my local Post Office; I'm there several times a week.
[/quote]
Glad to here it :thumbup:
Andy W
Posted by: RoRoVw - 19 November 2012 13:18:08
I've just applied on line for the road tax on my 1951 deluxe even though it hasn't had an MoT for over 12 months and is still in many pieces following it's restoration. The system has confirmed it was a successful application. I thought I'd give it a go just for the hell of it! It won't actually be back on the road until spring next year and before it goes anywhere significant I'll be having a voluntary MoT test.
Have to wait now to see if a tax disc arrives in the post.
Rob.
Posted by: six-o-one - 19 November 2012 15:42:21
[quote=lifeintheslowlane]I didn't say don't use your Post Office...I'm just talking about Car Tax. I'm very well known at my local Post Office; I'm there several times a week. Two packages on Friday...one to the U.S. and one to Canada.[/quote]
Then there's pension day of course. :wink:
Posted by: lifeintheslowlane - 19 November 2012 15:46:10
[quote=six-o-one]Then there's pension day of course. :wink:
[/quote]
Still not old enough for pension day.:thumbdn:
Posted by: RoRoVw - 22 November 2012 19:08:30
The tax disc for my dis-assembled '51 arrived today. I've displayed it in the windscreen as required by law. Does it matter that the windscreen at present lives in the dining room?
Rob
Posted by: Kev - 22 November 2012 19:21:10
[quote=RoRoVw]The tax disc for my dis-assembled '51 arrived today. I've displayed it in the windscreen as required by law. Does it matter that the windscreen at present lives in the dining room?
Rob[/quote]
Only if the rest of your 51 is parked on the public highway :wink:
Posted by: AW - 22 November 2012 20:19:03
[quote=RoRoVw]The tax disc for my dis-assembled '51 arrived today. I've displayed it in the windscreen as required by law. Does it matter that the windscreen at present lives in the dining room?
Rob[/quote]
Nice to see you are keeping within the Law Rob :rofl:
Andy W
