Good afternoon,
I wonder if anybody could help me please as I know you guys are in the know :wink:
I'm in the process of purchasing a 1951 type1 shell and chassis and I have some issues before I complete and I dont want to be subject to a scam!
The shell has a vin plate, crotch coolers are there, the rear window looks right, its had the rockers done but it doesnt have any slots in the b pillar for semaphores. Would there be any reason for this? They wouldnt have done some cars with and some without would they?
Thanks you for your help and advice
A concerned buyer
Posted by: JD - 02 March 2010 16:36:01
It should definitel have the slots, though people did occasionally weld/braze/filler them closed in the past. If you can sand the paint off and they were never there, then the cars a wrong un.
Posted by: lifeintheslowlane - 02 March 2010 16:39:38
[quote=lurkerzz]...its had the rockers done but it doesnt have any slots in the b pillar for semaphores. Would there be any reason for this? [/quote]
Yes there would be one [b]massive[/b] reason for this...the B pillars are from a much later car.:shock:
..or as JD says butchered by a previous owner.
Posted by: lurkerzz - 02 March 2010 17:15:16
Thats what I thought, the car is bear metal and I cant see anything.
I'm waiting for the guy to get back to me with the excuse. I will keep you posted!
Thanks very much [ATTACH]4133[/Attach]
Posted by: JD - 02 March 2010 17:26:43
What ever is going on with those heater channels?? Smoothed off - looks like they filled the running board recesses.
Hope it´s cheap.
Posted by: JD - 02 March 2010 17:27:23
And what is that parked behind it??
Posted by: vintagebug - 02 March 2010 17:27:54
Maybe it's my eyes, but the bottom of that three-quarter panel (below the side window) doesn't look correct- in the photo it looks like it meets the outside of the heater channel, ie it appears to be flush with it. It shouldn't be like that...
Posted by: vintagebug - 02 March 2010 17:28:47
Just seen your post, JD... :wink:
Posted by: lurkerzz - 02 March 2010 17:29:04
I can handle that kind of body work no problem, but I cant deal with no holes for semaphores
Posted by: lurkerzz - 02 March 2010 17:30:13
does it seem a little to fishy?
Posted by: JD - 02 March 2010 17:35:06
If it´s a few hundred quid then what have you got to lose? Depends how original you want it to be.
But yes, it´s pretty fishy.
Posted by: lurkerzz - 02 March 2010 17:45:05
I wanted something that had the basis of an original, but this seems a bit far fetched and a 36 hour round trip to pick it up for a couple of grand does'nt seem like a good thing either
Gutted because a beetle with crotch coolers is my ideal car, I will have to wait and something will come up 1 day :oops:
Posted by: JD - 02 March 2010 19:58:21
I understand - who wouldn´t jump at the chance to get their dream car? This isnt it though!
Careful what you wish for!
Posted by: ianmac - 02 March 2010 20:13:32
Has it got all of the missing panels and parts to go with it as part of the deal? IMHO it is more expensive to purchase all of the correct parts for a split oval than it is to find a good complete unmessed with car. If it was a couple of grand and included all of the original parts I would say it would be worth while.
Posted by: lurkerzz - 03 March 2010 18:52:06
it has 4 wings and 1 door so its still missing a lot of stuff that I was hoping to collect over a period of years
The more I look at the pictures I have been sent the more I question certain parts, the guy who is selling it said that the holes for the semaphores has been welded over and he is going to send me more pictures today
It also has the 6 numbers ibelow the vin plate n the front valance good/bad?
I have tried as much as possible to research the car but I'm far from a REAL expert hance why I'm here!
Posted by: 69project - 03 March 2010 19:04:19
gut feeling normally prevails in these circumstances
i know it costs to ship but there has been a lot of splits on samba recently
Posted by: Standard split - 04 March 2010 19:38:57
Wot, no semaphores :?:
What's with the rather strange (split?) black car in the background :?
quote=lurkerzz]…but it doesnt have any slots in the b pillar for semaphores. Would there be any reason for this? They wouldnt have done some cars with and some without would they?
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Yep, the slots have been welded over :x