Inspired by the dual-mount antenna comment, & MOTD2, I'd be interested to hear pre67 User's 'One Good, One Bad' items related to the VW scene
& when I say Bad, I just mean an irritation, something where your interest ebbs...
Rules are
>One of each (one good, one bad) per post
>Users can post more than once, but not in the same post
I want to hear from all the regulars, & I'd also really like to see an entry from some of the lurkers out there!
Mine to start
[b]Good:[/b] Original interiors
[b]Bad:[/b] Replica rims
Posted by: JD - 07 August 2010 01:09:30
[b]Good:[/b] Old Speed 30 horsers!
[b]Bad:[/b] Knackered Cabrio tops.
Posted by: surrey67 - 07 August 2010 02:59:35
Good: Stock Height
Bad: Slammed Buses
Posted by: RoRoVw - 07 August 2010 09:21:01
Good: Wholesome, original paintwork with period touched in areas
Bad: Rust and rot excused as 'patina'
Good: a perfect black cabrio hood (top to Americans) with a tiny back window
Bad: people drooling over rusty old shite that has been 'slammed' saying things like - wicked, awesome, cool - when the owner mentions it scrapes on the road.
Posted by: mrsherbie - 07 August 2010 13:31:40
Good - original interior & carpet (best way to tell how a car has lived and been treated & mileage guage)
Bad - rusty gutters!
Posted by: 55Kab - 07 August 2010 13:39:45
Good: amazing enthusiasm in all area's of the hobby.
Bad: car's which people think are cool but are really need need of a restoration
Posted by: oval56 - 07 August 2010 16:36:55
good: restored or kept with original material and paint and interieur
bad: wrong interieur, wrong paint, wrong parts...
Posted by: RockStock - 07 August 2010 16:51:41
[b]Good:[/b] Stanford Hall (always)
[b]Bad:[/b] Peppercorn (lately). Sorry.
Posted by: RockStock - 07 August 2010 16:58:28
[b]Good:[/b] An interesting swapmeet, with rugs of unusual parts laid out by the side/front of vintage VWs
[b]Bad:[/b] Show stalls selling crap VW paraphernalia (cuddly giraffes, VW mirrors, etc etc etc)
[IMG]https://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y50/RockStock/OneGoodOneBad/P6280379a.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]https://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y50/RockStock/OneGoodOneBad/P5030069a.jpg[/IMG]
Posted by: 64rotbox - 07 August 2010 17:11:16
Good: Incredible restoration standards (occasionally).
Bad: 'V-Dubbers' and the 'VW Scene'. I sh*t 'em.
Posted by: Jules - 07 August 2010 17:30:56
[b]Good:[/b] A well detailed car or van, detail is everything and the smallest things count, I'm not talking about lining screw heads up (thats gay), I'm talking about stuff most people wouldn't even notice.
[b]Bad:[/b] This is easy, cheap repro mirrors on Split vans, the ones that have the 'off center' mounting pin, also the arms that are often seen with them... the ones where the 'bend' is so obviously wrong and they are quite often not painted.... absolutely awful and I have a massive problem with them!
Posted by: Rich Oakley - 07 August 2010 18:02:14
[b]Good:[/b] RHD
[b]Bad:[/b] LHD
Posted by: RockStock - 07 August 2010 18:04:41
Some good ones!
There's been a real increase in RHD pride over the last few years, hasn't there. Gotta be original UK though
Jules, I like the mirror one.
[b]Good:[/b] Getting hold of a vintage picture of a treasured VW you own
[b]Bad:[/b] 'Improved' Beetle air-intake vent
[img]https://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/236044.jpg[/img]
[img]https://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/426228.jpg[/img]
Posted by: mrsherbie - 07 August 2010 19:41:36
[quote=Rich Oakley]
[b]Good:[/b] RHD
[b]Bad:[/b] LHD[/quote]
[img]https://planetsmilies.net/violent-smiley-1709.gif[/img]
Good = LHD 90% rustfree
Bad = RHD 90% rusted away
:lol:
Posted by: lifeintheslowlane - 07 August 2010 21:50:29
Good: Original LHD
Bad: LDH converted to RHD
Posted by: surrey67 - 08 August 2010 00:12:02
Good:"Proper" vintage stockish shows
Bad : Stock height vans on aftermarket wheels you know the type , Randars etc wrong just wrong , stop it now !
Posted by: tman - 08 August 2010 02:29:36
[b]Good[/b]: Folks who make the effort to bring their old classic cars out for us all to enjoy.
[b]Bad[/b]: Playing ball games, or any other projectile-orientated game for that matter, at VW shows. :evil: :evil: :evil:
Posted by: GKL 7 - 08 August 2010 20:09:03
Good = Rob Amos
Bad = Brian Burrows
:lol:
Posted by: GKL 7 - 08 August 2010 20:11:25
Good = NOS for sale at German shows
Bad = The rusty scrap for sale at UK shows
Posted by: 64rotbox - 08 August 2010 21:33:31
I'll just nod in complete agreement for that first one now, just in case it doesn't last the night... ;)
Posted by: pre67vw - 08 August 2010 21:54:14
[quote='50 Karmann]Good = Rob Amos
Bad = Brian Burrows
:lol: [/quote]
:lol:
Do you feel you have some creeping to do? Presumably BB wasn't your first choice :wink:
Good: The great people that you meet through this hobby
Bad: Losing them
Posted by: GKL 7 - 08 August 2010 22:40:46
[quote=pre67vw]
Do you feel you have some creeping to do?
[/quote]
No,not necessary,you have nothing i want.:wink:
Good = Stock Steels
Bad = Porsche wheels on Volkswagen cars.
Posted by: JD - 08 August 2010 22:53:39
[quote='50 Karmann]No,not necessary,you have nothing i want.:wink:
Good = Stock Steels
Bad = Porsche wheels on Volkswagen cars.[/quote]
Oh, I don´t know. I could live with a set of these...
[img]https://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/599029.jpg[/img]
[quote='50 Karmann]Good = Rob Amos
Bad = Brian Burrows[/quote]
[quote='50 Karmann]Good = NOS for sale at German shows
Bad = The rusty scrap for sale at UK shows[/quote]
both bang on the money!
Posted by: RockStock - 09 August 2010 01:19:19
[b]Good:[/b] Shows run by enthusiasts (SH, BC, HO, Lavenham, Huckeswagen, Ghia 50th, etc)
[b]Bad:[/b] Shows run by 'entrepreneurs'
Posted by: RockStock - 09 August 2010 01:24:55
[b]Good:[/b] Magazine Vintage Specials
[b]Bad:[/b] Articles that suggest restorers/tinkerers/customisers should Think Outside The Box
Posted by: RockStock - 09 August 2010 01:29:17
bit retro but
[b]Good:[/b] IVVM dropping through your letterbox
[b]Bad:[/b] VW Trends
Posted by: pre67vw - 09 August 2010 13:57:33
[b]Good:[/b] Opening up an old barn to find an unmolested '49
[b]Bad:[/b] Opening up an old barn to find a couple of lawn mowers and a bike
Posted by: GKL 7 - 09 August 2010 20:17:05
[quote=pre67vw][b]Good:[/b] Opening up an old barn to find an unmolested '49
[b]Bad:[/b] Opening up an old barn to find a couple of lawn mowers and a bike[/quote]
:lol:
Good = Original Volkswagen Literature.
Bad = Reprints.
Posted by: GKL 7 - 09 August 2010 20:23:05
Good = People who take cars apart and restore them.
Bad = People who take cars apart and leave them.
Posted by: JD - 09 August 2010 21:53:21
[b]Good:[/b]Enjoying the variety of cars at shows.
[b]Bad:[/b]Radial tyres on otherwise restored vintage VWs.
Posted by: pre67vw - 09 August 2010 22:08:44
[b]Good:[/b] theSamba.com
[b]Bad:[/b] Using the pre67vw.com forum but putting their ads on theSamba.com
Posted by: GKL 7 - 09 August 2010 22:40:34
[quote=pre67vw][b]Good:[/b] theSamba.com
[b]Bad:[/b] Using the pre67vw.com forum but putting their ads on theSamba.com
[/quote]
:lol: :lol: :lol:
I worked that one out Rob,maybe he thought Americans had shorter memories than us:wink:
Good = Being here
Bad = Being banned from here:wink:
Posted by: 55Kab - 10 August 2010 11:47:34
...and now with pictures...
Good :
[ATTACH]4759[/Attach]
good: (NOS)
[img]https://www.oval56.de/bilder%20heb455/030409%2004.jpg[/img]
bad (70km no fun): :cry:
[img]https://www.oval56.de/bilder%20heb455/210609%2014.jpg[/img]
:d :lol: :wink:
Posted by: pre67vw - 10 August 2010 17:05:57
[b]Good:[/b] Bad Camberg
[b]Bad:[/b] Bad Camembert
Posted by: 54 Gertie - 10 August 2010 17:38:21
[b]Good:[/b] An early 60s 'Big cap' distributor, fully restored using NOS Bosch components by Glenn Ring. 8)
[IMG]https://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww119/VWShowsPhotos/NFO%20566/zvpau4r5_1.jpg[/IMG]
[b]Bad:[/b] This, same distributor, but rather than shiney and new, a greasy jigsaw puzzle. :roll:
[IMG]https://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww119/VWShowsPhotos/NFO%20566/IMG_0607.jpg[/IMG]
Posted by: Ovaltine - 14 August 2010 12:55:22
[b]Good:[/b] Threads like these where individual owners have made a lot of effort:
pre'53 - [i]Rattletrap[/i]:beer:
53-57 - [i]My Barn Find '57 Ov[/i]al :beer:
57-67 - [i]My 67 1500 Bug- Renovation [/i]:beer:
[b]Bad:[/b] Threads like this which show that the vintage Volkswagen is not an inexhaustable subject:evil:
Posted by: Sunroof53 - 14 August 2010 16:15:25
[quote=54 Gertie][b]Good:[/b] An early 60s 'Big cap' distributor, fully restored using NOS Bosch components by Glenn Ring. 8)
[IMG]https://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww119/VWShowsPhotos/NFO%20566/zvpau4r5_1.jpg[/IMG]
[b]Bad:[/b] This, same distributor, but rather than shiney and new, a greasy jigsaw puzzle. :roll:
[IMG]https://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww119/VWShowsPhotos/NFO%20566/IMG_0607.jpg[/IMG][/quote]
Thats some jigsaw puzzle ,Fitting that carburetter float and jets to that dizzy must have been a nightmare :lol: :wink:
Posted by: Sunroof53 - 14 August 2010 16:21:12
Good: Still lots of nice vintage VWs around and often for sale !!
Bad : Cant afford any of them :(
Posted by: brille52 - 14 August 2010 17:29:44
Good : The organised drive around at the Hessisch Oldendorf show :d
Bad : That there is no organised drive around at the Bad Camberg show :cry:
a8)
Posted by: RockStock - 14 August 2010 17:41:30
[b]Good:[/b] North American or European Barndoors
[b]Worse than Bad:[/b] Columbian Barndoors
[img]https://images.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/pix/3353798.jpg[/img]
[img]https://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y50/RockStock/eb2c82b3.jpg[/img]
Posted by: 54 Gertie - 14 August 2010 18:29:00
[quote=Sunroof53]Thats some jigsaw puzzle ,Fitting that carburetter float and jets to that dizzy must have been a nightmare :lol: :wink: [/quote]
The accelerator pump linkage was the hardest bit to fit. :lol:
Now basically back together, minus the 28 PICT parts. :wink:
Posted by: pre67vw - 16 August 2010 21:02:47
Fender skirts, good or bad? - I can't decide...
Posted by: 64rotbox - 16 August 2010 21:16:44
Bad. Most definitely bad.
Posted by: mrsherbie - 16 August 2010 21:20:34
[quote=Ovaltine][b]Good:[/b] Threads like these where individual owners have made a lot of effort:
pre'53 - [i]Rattletrap[/i]:beer:
53-57 - [i]My Barn Find '57 Ov[/i]al :beer:
57-67 - [i]My 67 1500 Bug- Renovation [/i]:beer:
[b]Bad:[/b] Threads like this which show that the vintage Volkswagen is not an inexhaustable subject:evil: [/quote]
Good - yep, threads with lots of pictures
Bad - posts with enough double negatives to really make my brain hurt ^ :lol:
Posted by: cupa65 - 16 August 2010 22:21:09
Good- Any original well maintained VW regardless of year.
Bad- Age snobbery (whereby the owners of early cars think that later cars are not important, and do not justify the amount of effort exerted on them)
Posted by: pre67vw - 16 August 2010 22:22:43
[quote=cupa65]
Bad- Age snobbery (whereby the owners of early cars think that later cars are not important, and do not justify the amount of effort exerted on them)[/quote]
Hmm, does that include pre67? :lol: :lol:
Posted by: JD - 17 August 2010 00:06:19
[quote=cupa65]Good- Any original well maintained VW regardless of year.
Bad- Age snobbery (whereby the owners of early cars think that later cars are not important, and do not justify the amount of effort exerted on them)[/quote]
Any opinions on this one George?:lol: :lol:
Posted by: JD - 17 August 2010 00:07:29
[quote=pre67vw]Fender skirts, good or bad? - I can't decide...
[/quote]
Fenderskirts = Spawn of Beelzebub.
Posted by: GKL 7 - 17 August 2010 20:09:54
Good = A stock pre67 vintage forum
Bad = people who come on a stock pre67 vintage forum and refuse to accept it is a stock pre67 vintage forum ONLY.
BTW fenderskirts suck[-x
[b]Good:[/b] Great early VW finds
[img]https://homepage.mac.com/kdfkid/swi1.jpg[/img]
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=428519
[b]Bad:[/b] Decklid/hood struts
[img]https://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/566487.jpg[/img]
[img]https://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z157/dblinker/DBKcars_Pipride587.jpg[/img]
Posted by: JD - 17 September 2010 23:15:25
[quote=RockStock]
[b]Bad:[/b] Decklid/hood struts
[/quote]
Am I forgiven for using bits of wood, as both my boot and engine lid supports have fallen off?:lol:
Posted by: RockStock - 17 September 2010 23:49:46
might be ok on a scruffy survivor car!
got a pic?
i guess i was getting at struts on done/show cars...
Trent, you're not having one are you son?
Posted by: 54 Gertie - 18 September 2010 00:25:26
Are the struts not simply to hold the bonnet/decklid up at a desired angle, also without leading to twisting on the bonnet or wear of the spring/spot welded on plate in the case of the dekclid?
Look at how a single prop bonnet bends when it's open, wouldn't want that on your nicely painted car all day at a show...:wink:
Posted by: heb623 - 19 September 2010 16:44:51
[b]GOOD:[/b] [ATTACH]4900[/Attach]
Posted by: heb623 - 19 September 2010 16:47:25
[b]BAD:[/b] [ATTACH]4901[/Attach]
Posted by: heb623 - 01 October 2010 16:43:48
[b]A BAD [center][u][i]headache[/i][/u][/center]!!![/b] [ATTACH]4955[/Attach]
Posted by: 69project - 01 October 2010 17:13:50
[quote=JD]Am I forgiven for using bits of wood, as both my boot and engine lid supports have fallen off?:lol: [/quote]
if its about confessions i use an old sprit level i found...
Posted by: Sunroof53 - 01 October 2010 22:53:12
[quote=heb623][b]A BAD [center][u][i]headache[/i][/u][/center]!!![/b][/quote]
Ooch, not nice .I can see someone in the car :( Doesnt look good.
Posted by: GKL 7 - 02 October 2010 16:42:26
[quote=Sunroof53]Ooch, not nice .I can see someone in the car :( Doesnt look good.[/quote]
I thought that,that person surely couldn't have survived.
Thanks for the creepy photograph E.T[-x
Posted by: heb623 - 02 October 2010 18:32:50
[quote='50 Karmann]
Thanks for the creepy photograph E.T[-x
[/quote]
You're welcome!!!!:oops:
:twisted: ET
