Lets make a overview of all the existing Dannenhauer & Stauss.
From some D&S owners I heart that they have a list of known cars. Currently 18 examples are known of with 13 of them are drivable/restored.
2 * 1951
2 * 1952
11 * 1953
3 * 1954
The wish of a lot of owner is to remain anonymous, what is logical. I respect this wish, so will provide no names, but only the country were the car is located.
Who can add pictures of other cars to this list. (there are still 3 cars missing!!)
[b]Split window cars:[/b]
1) [b]1951[/b] Second D&S build, Silver, located in Suisse with its second owner
[img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_431_untitled51024.jpg[/img][img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_431_untitled31024.jpg[/img]
2) [b]1951[/b] VW museum car (licence: AB CW 505 or WOB 051H)
[img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_0102032544100.jpg[/img][img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_426810.jpg[/img][img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_dyn005original640480pjpega098d29519536380929b7ec26a1efae6.jpg[/img]
3) [b]1952[/b] White car from Austria (licence W BABY 50)
[img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_dscn3798.jpg[/img][img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_dscn3799.jpg[/img]
4) [b]1952[/b] Black car located in the Netherlands:
[img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_badcamburg20071.jpg[/img][img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_bc07090.jpg[/img]
5) [b]1953[/b] Brown located in Germany (licence Fu DS53H)
[img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_03.jpg[/img][img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_04.jpg[/img][img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_05.jpg[/img]
[b]Normal window[/b]
6) [b]1953[/b] Sweden (licence UNIK53)
[img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_62.jpg[/img][img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_63.jpg[/img][img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_219299porsche4.jpg[/img][img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_1995vwexpo03.jpg[/img]
7) [b]1953[/b] Was on show in HO 2005. (car located in Belgium)
[img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_151.jpg[/img][img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_meeting20raoulshallen20049.jpg[/img]
8 ) [b]1953[/b] Swiss car, licence SG 29809
[img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_copyofdstauss53a.jpg[/img][img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_copyofdstauss53b.jpg[/img][img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_pic456.jpg[/img]
9) [b]1953[/b] Located in Germany (licence HD DS53H)
[img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_173570.jpg[/img][img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_173569.jpg[/img]
10) [b]1953[/b] Famous car form the US.
[img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_304797.jpg[/img][img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_426576.jpg[/img][img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_374556.jpg[/img]
11) [b]1953[/b] restored by Lenny Copp, now collection of Flat4, Japan,
[img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_1953ds1.jpg[/img][img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_384280.jpg[/img]
12) [b]1953[/b] Located in germany (Licence SE 04438 and SE BJ53H)
[img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_img8196.jpg[/img][img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_img8199.jpg[/img][img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_45546032160be37bce77b.jpg[/img][img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_45539447654bcbff54f0o.jpg[/img]
13) [b]1953[/b] Black car, located in the US
[img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_431_untitled11024.jpg[/img]
14) [b]1953[/b] Green one with Suisse licence SG 115187, now in Australia
[img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_copyofdstauss51a.jpg[/img][img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_badcamburg20072.jpg[/img]
15) [b]1953[/b] Was for sale in Germnay, will now go to the US.
[img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_228ds.jpg[/img][img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_228ds2.jpg[/img]
16) [b]1954[/b] Was for sale in Australia and stayed there.
[img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_019.jpg[/img][img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_soldforaus520003.jpg[/img]
17 ) [b]1954[/b] Located in germany (licence HM 04583 and HM TG54))
[img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_28215898083f4752f29b.jpg[/img][img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_1002767.jpg[/img][img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_153581.jpg[/img][img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_pic35.jpg[/img]
18) [b]1954[/b] owned by a coachbuild collector in the US
[img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_2008611dannenhauerweblarge.jpg[/img][img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_dannenhauerstauss1.jpg[/img]
Posted by: pre67vw - 13 August 2010 10:30:34
This one?
[img]https://www.pre67vw.com/shows/photos/Bad_Camberg_2003/100_0014.JPG[/img]
Posted by: JD - 13 August 2010 10:35:55
Isn´t it "Stauss"?
Posted by: pre67vw - 13 August 2010 10:42:50
I always thought it was Dannenhauer & Stauss but often see it written with the 'r'...
Posted by: pbaptist - 23 August 2010 20:55:20
In hessisch 2005 there were two D&S project cars.
What happened to the red one?
Is that now car with licence SE 04438 or SE BJ53H?
[img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/422_b3zhbdu2qdq1nzqxmdk4qdjamjawnta2mjuxmja0mdq.jpg[/img]
Groet
Patrick
Posted by: SplitPersonality - 30 August 2010 11:07:59
[quote=pbaptist]In hessisch 2005 there were two D&S project cars.
What happened to the red one?
Is that now car with licence SE 04438 or SE BJ53H?
[img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/422_b3zhbdu2qdq1nzqxmdk4qdjamjawnta2mjuxmja0mdq.jpg[/img]
Groet
Patrick[/quote]
This pictured projectcar is the one that was restored, became brown and won a/the price at the latest HO meeting. A 4 year translation that is pretty impressive.
Posted by: pre67vw - 30 August 2010 11:26:49
[quote=SplitPersonality]This pictured projectcar is the one that was restored, became brown and won a/the price at the latest HO meeting. A 4 year translation that is pretty impressive.[/quote]
This might be a stupid question, but are they made of steel? I had always assumed they were aluminium like the Rometsch, but from that photo it looks like it has rust holes...
Posted by: zelensis61 - 30 August 2010 12:35:33
[quote=pre67vw]This might be a stupid question, but are they made of steel? I had always assumed they were aluminium like the Rometsch, but from that photo it looks like it has rust holes...[/quote]
Rob, There are no stupid questions. Only the answers are mostly stupid.:!:
In this case you were right :wink: with the rust holes...it is indeed made of steel.
Is that an answer on your question? :lol:
Rometsch, ghia angle, denzel and Drews were made of Alu as far as I know.Rest is steel.
Greets.
Posted by: pbaptist - 30 August 2010 18:28:34
[quote=SplitPersonality]This pictured projectcar is the one that was restored, became brown and won a/the price at the latest HO meeting. A 4 year translation that is pretty impressive.[/quote]
Indeed, it is a great looking car now!
[img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/422_img8199.jpg[/img]
Posted by: pbaptist - 30 August 2010 18:31:06
[quote=zelensis61]Rob, There are no stupid questions. Only the answers are mostly stupid.:!:
In this case you were right :wink: with the rust holes...it is indeed made of steel.
Is that an answer on your question? :lol:
Rometsch, ghia angle, denzel and Drews were made of Alu as far as I know.Rest is steel.
Greets. [/quote]
really. :shock:
I also thought that the D&S were aluminium as well.
What about the Beutler coupe's?
Patrick
Posted by: zelensis61 - 30 August 2010 18:57:35
I am not sure. I have tried with a magnified iron on 5 of them in my garage and none of them could hold the magnet....:shock:
Just kidding. No clue on them. At least one or two of them are made in iron.....the pick-ups.
Posted by: pbaptist - 01 September 2010 22:29:40
Here some more prove that a D&S is made of metal.
they can rust !!
And it looks like they had to brake down a wall to get this car out.
[img]https://www.typ15.de/pics/lost+found/00070738.jpg[/img]
[img]https://www.typ15.de/pics/lost+found/00070740.jpg[/img]
Posted by: zelensis61 - 01 September 2010 22:37:04
That one is restored by Matthias at Grundmann's place and is in the collection . Wearing a spranklin silver coat...
The magic of restauration at the Grundmann's. Nothing is impossible
Posted by: SplitPersonality - 02 September 2010 10:12:04
[quote=pbaptist]really. :shock:
I also thought that the D&S were aluminium as well.
What about the Beutler coupe's?
Patrick[/quote]
For the record (from Paolo): Beutlers were built as Rometsches: Simple sheet metal steel structure, with aluminium outer skin.
Posted by: overrestored - 11 September 2010 22:49:56
let's not forget to include the forerunner of the Dannenhauer and Stauss... otherwise known as the Auto Technic
Some of my photos of it have been posted by Everett Barnes on theSamba... I am not positive that this is an Auto Technic... but it sure looks close.
[img]https://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/180627.jpg[/img]
[img]https://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/180626.jpg[/img]
[img]https://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/180628.jpg[/img]
[img]https://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/180624.jpg[/img]
Posted by: JD - 12 September 2010 10:57:48
I like that Auto Technic, even if it´s not quite as refined a design as the D+S. Whats the story? Is it restored by now?
Posted by: SplitPersonality - 30 September 2010 13:21:29
Here is one more:
https://blog.bbt4vw.com/2010/07/30/bbt-transport-anything-as-long-as-its-vw-related-at-least/
My bet is on Mark.
Posted by: qwerty - 01 October 2010 02:01:35
Not mine, but it will eventually come to northern CA. Not sure if new owner wants to be known at this time, however.
Mark
Posted by: pbaptist - 02 October 2010 11:13:17
[quote=qwerty]Not mine, but it will eventually come to northern CA. Not sure if new owner wants to be known at this time, however.
Mark[/quote]
Was this the car from PF were LK was interested in?
@Mark you know whom I am talking about.
Regards
Patrick
Posted by: pbaptist - 04 October 2010 21:26:13
[quote=SplitPersonality]Here is one more:
https://blog.bbt4vw.com/2010/07/30/bbt-transport-anything-as-long-as-its-vw-related-at-least/
My bet is on Mark.[/quote]
Thanks for this link.
This was one of the four cars I couldn't find pictures from on the internet. It was also the only car I dodn't know the year. Now I know it is a 1953 build.
I updated the list in my first post.
Still, pictures of three cars to go!!
Patrick
Posted by: SplitPersonality - 06 October 2010 09:06:45
Interesting - congratulations LK!
Patrik: "The white car in Mexico" surely must be identical to number 19 on your list. No 19 was white and was in Mexico...came to Arizona in 1997...then on to North-eastern USA and became restored and burgundy.. There can not be two white Mexico-cars "in the world"...?
Posted by: pbaptist - 06 October 2010 13:13:25
[quote=SplitPersonality]Interesting - congratulations LK!
Patrik: "The white car in Mexico" surely must be identical to number 19 on your list. No 19 was white and was in Mexico...came to Arizona in 1997...then on to North-eastern USA and became restored and burgundy.. There can not be two white Mexico-cars "in the world"...?[/quote]
Interesting,
If that is true, it means that there are only 18 D&S in the world and not 19.
Or there must be another red/burgundy in the US.
Patrick
Posted by: pbaptist - 06 October 2010 23:16:32
Here are pictures of the Silver D&S from Suisse. It is the second D&S build. I found these pictures in an issue of the IVVM.
[img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/431_untitled51024.jpg[/img]
[img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/431_untitled31024.jpg[/img]
Still one car to go!!
Who can help me with pictures of a Black 1953 D&S located in the US.
regards
Patrick
Posted by: zelensis61 - 08 October 2010 20:49:26
Hi Patrick, I have a copy of the Coachbuilt VW club VW elite from jan 2006 in wich a Austrian D&S is posted in white color I think. It wears a Wiener licence plate. Owner was a certain mr Ettel. I'll try to scan it in but the pict is on normal paper and not glossy so it is not that clear.
Okrasa engine with mushroom filters, dual hella fanfare horns, center antenna on split screen front window and smeperit logo on the back below the engine cover .
best regards....:lol: now I need a new heb from you....8)
Posted by: SplitPersonality - 09 October 2010 14:25:14
Speaking of the Shaill-writings. Between us in here I assume we have about everything Shaill has written on coachbuilts... be it the UK Spit Club newsletters, the IVVM Magazine, the Coachbuilt Registry newsletters and the VW Elite magazines... Has anybody a) asked Bob for permission to scan and post (whole magazines I mean)...b) Digitalized these wonderful things?
How about getting permission to digitalize and then share some of these? Fantastic sources for information...and the 1985-95 material is no doubt the most important reason why I am a coachbuilt-fanatic myself...
Posted by: pbaptist - 10 October 2010 14:06:02
[quote=zelensis61]Hi Patrick, I have a copy of the Coachbuilt VW club VW elite from jan 2006 in wich a Austrian D&S is posted in white color I think. It wears a Wiener licence plate. Owner was a certain mr Ettel. I'll try to scan it in but the pict is on normal paper and not glossy so it is not that clear.
Okrasa engine with mushroom filters, dual hella fanfare horns, center antenna on split screen front window and smeperit logo on the back below the engine cover .
best regards....:lol: now I need a new heb from you....8)
[/quote]
Hi Peter,
That is the third car in the overview with licence W Baby 50. It is already known, so I have no reason to give you my file of unknown hebs :wink:
[img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/422_dscn3798.jpg[/img]
[img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/422_dscn3799.jpg[/img]
Regards
Patrick
Posted by: zelensis61 - 10 October 2010 14:57:30
damn Patrick...I toughed you would not have noticed that it is already in it and I whould have scored some new hebs.:wink:
Ok I overlooked that one. Did not look at the licenceplate but only at the pict of the car.
Best regards. Peter
Posted by: Dereck-J - 13 October 2010 00:42:54
Thanks for putting this post together, D&S's are my favourite coach built. Hessisch 2005 was like metal porn for me, I spent a very long time just sitting taking in the amazing line up of cars. I was cheesed off with myself for my very poor German, when I found out who was speaking on the Saturday evening too, loved seeing the drawings - would love to have a copy of those on my garage walls for inspiration. I sat and chatted with the Australian guy who bought the black 54, lucky guy.
If you work hard enough dreams can come true, I have the garage space...
Posted by: 55Kab - 13 October 2010 18:03:48
[quote=Dereck-J]Thanks for putting this post together, D&S's are my favourite coach built. Hessisch 2005 was like metal porn for me, I spent a very long time just sitting taking in the amazing line up of cars. I was cheesed off with myself for my very poor German, when I found out who was speaking on the Saturday evening too, loved seeing the drawings - would love to have a copy of those on my garage walls for inspiration. I sat and chatted with the Australian guy who bought the black 54, lucky guy.
If you work hard enough dreams can come true, I have the garage space...[/quote]
x2. :beer:
Given a choice (never likely to happen :lol: ) I'd take one of these over a Heb anyday.
Posted by: JD - 13 October 2010 19:50:46
[quote=55Kab]x2. :beer:
Given a choice (never likely to happen :lol: ) I'd take one of these over a Heb anyday.
[/quote]
Absolutely! Gorgeous cars.
Some photos I pinched from somewhere. It really shows the clean lines off without the bumpers fitted.
[IMG]https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v259/Jameshdeath/a53vw1953-dannenhauer-stauss.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v259/Jameshdeath/blkds-9.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v259/Jameshdeath/blkds-90.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v259/Jameshdeath/1st%20Int%20Veteranentreffen%2014-05-10/DSCF1546.jpg[/IMG]
Posted by: pbaptist - 01 November 2010 18:53:09
The owner of the black car in the US contacted me and will sent me some pictures (not digital). As soon as I get them, I will scan the pictures and put this car in the overview.
That is the last one and then this overview is complete :d
Patrick
Posted by: SplitPersonality - 02 November 2010 09:44:17
[quote=pbaptist]
That is the last one and then this overview is complete :d
Patrick[/quote]
Now...those are "famous last words" of a Registry-caretaker... I bet my Wiger Coupe that there are more D&S's out there than these...
Posted by: pbaptist - 02 November 2010 22:24:46
[quote=SplitPersonality]Now...those are "famous last words" of a Registry-caretaker... I bet my Wiger Coupe that there are more D&S's out there than these...[/quote]
I am not the registry caretaker, That is Andy Luzzi.
Just giving an complete overview of all current known D&S.
Oystein, will you bet you Wiger Coupe that there will no new D&S discoverred in the next 2 years?
Posted by: DNSregistry - 03 November 2010 06:40:56
Patrick, gents,
Please don't bet any cars ... it's too risky :-)
I run the "D&S World Registry" since 1977, which contains some 800 photos of 43 different D&S cars. A world compendium about D&S is in preparation.
A part-photo of the missing black DNS in the USA is attached, so is a photo-clip of number 19 (1953) from Germany (PS: I might send these pics to Patrick as I cannot upload them for whatever reason).
Please make sure that the correct spelling is always used, being: DANNENHAUER & STAUSS.
Cheers.
Andy.
*** [ATTACH]5019[/Attach] [ATTACH]5020[/Attach]
Posted by: 55Kab - 03 November 2010 09:02:42
Welcome to the forum Andy :beer:
I've admired and been a fan of the D&S since photos of your green car were published in Colin Burnham's Air Cooled VW's book about 25 years ago. :wink: I just realised how old that makes me feel! :lol:
Posted by: SplitPersonality - 03 November 2010 09:30:04
Wow - Andy Luzzi.. Welcome to the forum!
The pictures of your green one also inspired me to start hunting for coachbuilts almost 20 years ago. I even have a "pre-internet-days" letter from yourself describing how un-obtainable the D&S was/is based on my request to buy one...
So - Andy - enlighten us: How many were built and how many are known?
And I guess I can keep my Coupe, since the Patrick-list grew from 18 to 19 just after my post...
Posted by: pbaptist - 03 November 2010 21:15:57
Hallo Andy
Great that you joined this forum and also thanks for the first shot of the balck US car.
Oystein: Car nr 19 in Andy registry is car nr 15 in my overview. So still only 18 known :d
(I belive that car nr 9 and car nr 18 in Andy's registry is the same)!
Regards
Patrick
Posted by: 55Kab - 04 November 2010 05:32:08
Out of interest, anyone know how much the last one up for sale sold for?
Posted by: SplitPersonality - 04 November 2010 10:47:55
[quote=pbaptist]Hallo Andy
Great that you joined this forum and also thanks for the first shot of the balck US car.
Oystein: Car nr 19 in Andy registry is car nr 15 in my overview. So still only 18 known :d
(I belive that car nr 9 and car nr 18 in Andy's registry is the same)!
Regards
Patrick[/quote]
Is there anywhere one can see/read Andy's registry?
From what you write I understand that there is now confirmed 18 survivors in both registries - so to speak?
Posted by: pbaptist - 05 November 2010 22:18:55
Is this a D&S Coupe or something else
[img]https://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr315/beetleaid/Stromlinie/SDC12174.jpg[/img]
[img]https://data.motor-talk.de/data/galleries/0/9/882/10372225/203106779-w500.jpg[/img]
The car is at the Protptype museum in Hamburg.
Patrick
Posted by: pbaptist - 10 November 2010 19:03:36
OK, the coupe was not a Dannenhauer & Stauss.
But this one is, It is build by Dannenhauer & Stauss, but it is not the car as we know it.
[ATTACH]5049[/Attach] [ATTACH]5050[/Attach]
Posted by: SplitPersonality - 11 November 2010 14:13:05
[quote=pbaptist]OK, the coupe was not a Dannenhauer & Stauss.
But this one is, It is build by Dannenhauer & Stauss, but it is not the car as we know it.
[/quote]
Wow! So it is a D&S-body on a non-VW chassis? What base is it?
Very nice.... I am receptive to say "convert it to fit a VW-pan"....but I guess that is wrong...
Posted by: SplitPersonality - 11 November 2010 14:16:19
Here is another Dannenhauer & Stauss car... one of the most beautiful, most overlooked cars in the Porsche-VW-Audi family: The DKW Monza Coupe.
[img]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3d/DKW_Monza.JPG[/img]
Posted by: pbaptist - 11 November 2010 20:33:28
[quote=SplitPersonality]Here is another Dannenhauer & Stauss car... one of the most beautiful, most overlooked cars in the Porsche-VW-Audi family: The DKW Monza Coupe.
[img]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3d/DKW_Monza.JPG[/img][/quote]
This car is not abuild by Dannenhauer. It was build by Schenk.
The KDW Monza was build by 4 different companies and there are some small difference between the cars:
Check this website: https://www.dkwmonza.de/ and you can read all about it
This one is a Dannenhauer build DKW Monza:
[img]https://www.dkwmonza.de/images/Bildergross/DKW%20Monza%20Dannenhauer%20Stauss%20Schroeder%202.jpg[/img]
Posted by: pbaptist - 23 November 2010 21:22:27
Here are the pictures of the D&S from the US. This car was reported as the black car in the US.
Enjoy looking at the pictures.
[img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/431_untitled11024.jpg[/img]
Posted by: SplitPersonality - 24 November 2010 09:20:31
WOW....what a wonderful car!
Is it in this condition in 2010 as well? If so - it must be the most desireable D&S out there... Fantastic - thanks for sharing.
Posted by: overrestored - 25 November 2010 07:21:14
[quote=overrestored]let's not forget to include the forerunner of the Dannenhauer and Stauss... otherwise known as the Auto Technic
[img]https://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/180627.jpg[/img][/quote]
quoting oneself... very odd... but due to a CORRECTION!
I found some more Auto Technic shots today on my old Apple IIci!. Prior to today I thought this car was an Auto Technic... but the shots of that car... show that it is very different from this car.
-The windscreen is significantly shorter than this car.
-The doors open the other way
-the rear end is a lot different.
So I don't know what this car is. perhaps it is somewhere between an Auto Technic and a Dannenhauer and Stauss.... I really don't know.
I will post the other shots of the actual Auto Technic when I can figure out how to get them off my 25 year OLD computer! I need to find some old discs... and then find a disc drive with a firewire or USB cable to plug into my iMac... or figure a way to get that antique computer hooked directly to my new mac.
I totally forgot I even had these shots until today!
Posted by: pbaptist - 25 November 2010 21:20:49
[quote=SplitPersonality]WOW....what a wonderful car!
Is it in this condition in 2010 as well? If so - it must be the most desireable D&S out there... Fantastic - thanks for sharing.[/quote]
No, this was the condition of the car when it was bought in 1985. The restoration on this car is started, but stopped at some time. The current owner will continue with the restoration ans eventually finish it, but for now it is unknown when that will be.
Posted by: pbaptist - 25 November 2010 21:25:39
[quote=overrestored]quoting oneself... very odd... but due to a CORRECTION!
I found some more Auto Technic shots today on my old Apple IIci!. Prior to today I thought this car was an Auto Technic... but the shots of that car... show that it is very different from this car.
-The windscreen is significantly shorter than this car.
-The doors open the other way
-the rear end is a lot different.
So I don't know what this car is. perhaps it is somewhere between an Auto Technic and a Dannenhauer and Stauss.... I really don't know.
I will post the other shots of the actual Auto Technic when I can figure out how to get them off my 25 year OLD computer! I need to find some old discs... and then find a disc drive with a firewire or USB cable to plug into my iMac... or figure a way to get that antique computer hooked directly to my new mac.
I totally forgot I even had these shots until today![/quote]
There is a picture on bugland.be of an auto technic: (only one mad?)
[img]https://www.bugland.be/Verschillende_Vw-types_Coachbuilt_files/Auto_Technik.jpg[/img]
Posted by: markh - 27 December 2010 05:19:03
pbaptist, you have a Private Message.
[quote=pbaptist]Lets make a overview of all the existing Dannenhauer & Strauss.
From some D&S owners I heart that they have a list of known cars. Currently 18 examples are known of with 13 of them are drivable/restored.
2 * 1951
2 * 1952
11 * 1953
3 * 1954
The wish of a lot of owner is to remain anonymous, what is logical. I respect this wish, so will provide no names, but only the country were the car is located.
Who can add pictures of other cars to this list. (there are still 3 cars missing!!)
[b]Split window cars:[/b]
1) [b]1951[/b] Second D&S build, Silver, located in Suisse with its second owner
[img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_431_untitled51024.jpg[/img][img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_431_untitled31024.jpg[/img]
2) [b]1951[/b] VW museum car (licence: AB CW 505 or WOB 051H)
[img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_0102032544100.jpg[/img][img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_426810.jpg[/img][img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_dyn005original640480pjpega098d29519536380929b7ec26a1efae6.jpg[/img]
3) [b]1952[/b] White car from Austria (licence W BABY 50)
[img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_dscn3798.jpg[/img][img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_dscn3799.jpg[/img]
4) [b]1952[/b] Black car located in the Netherlands:
[img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_badcamburg20071.jpg[/img][img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_bc07090.jpg[/img]
5) [b]1953[/b] Brown located in Germany (licence Fu DS53H)
[img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_03.jpg[/img][img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_04.jpg[/img][img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_05.jpg[/img]
[b]Normal window[/b]
6) [b]1953[/b] Sweden (licence UNIK53)
[img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_62.jpg[/img][img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_63.jpg[/img][img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_219299porsche4.jpg[/img][img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_1995vwexpo03.jpg[/img]
7) [b]1953[/b] Was on show in HO 2005. (car located in Belgium)
[img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_151.jpg[/img][img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_meeting20raoulshallen20049.jpg[/img]
8 ) [b]1953[/b] Swiss car, licence SG 29809
[img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_copyofdstauss53a.jpg[/img][img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_copyofdstauss53b.jpg[/img][img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_pic456.jpg[/img]
9) [b]1953[/b] Located in Germany (licence HD DS53H)
[img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_173570.jpg[/img][img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_173569.jpg[/img]
10) [b]1953[/b] Famous car form the US.
[img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_304797.jpg[/img][img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_426576.jpg[/img][img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_374556.jpg[/img]
11) [b]1953[/b] restored by Lenny Copp, now collection of Flat4, Japan,
[img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_1953ds1.jpg[/img][img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_384280.jpg[/img]
12) [b]1953[/b] Located in germany (Licence SE 04438 and SE BJ53H)
[img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_img8196.jpg[/img][img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_img8199.jpg[/img][img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_45546032160be37bce77b.jpg[/img][img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_45539447654bcbff54f0o.jpg[/img]
13) [b]1953[/b] Black car, located in teh US
[img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_batch.jpg[/img]
14) [b]1953[/b] Green one with Suisse licence SG 115187, now in Australia
[img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_copyofdstauss51a.jpg[/img][img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_badcamburg20072.jpg[/img]
15) [b]1953[/b] Was for sale in Germnay, will now go to the US.
[img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_228ds.jpg[/img][img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_228ds2.jpg[/img]
16) [b]1954[/b] Was for sale in Australia and stayed there.
[img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_019.jpg[/img][img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_soldforaus520003.jpg[/img]
17 ) [b]1954[/b] Located in germany (licence HM 04583 and HM TG54))
[img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_28215898083f4752f29b.jpg[/img][img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_1002767.jpg[/img][img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_153581.jpg[/img][img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_pic35.jpg[/img]
18) [b]1954[/b] owned by a coachbuild collector in the US
[img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_2008611dannenhauerweblarge.jpg[/img][img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/thumb_422_dannenhauerstauss1.jpg[/img][/quote]
Posted by: pbaptist - 25 January 2011 21:35:49
I made an nicer overview
[img]https://www.kglowlightregistry.com/images/listing_photos/431_dannenhaueroverview.jpg[/img]
Posted by: SplitPersonality - 27 January 2011 15:10:00
I am looking through this intersting thread again.
Mr Luzzi comented he has pictures of 43 different D&S VW-cars. Does that mean that only 43 were made...or were there more? Does anybody know for ceratin what the production was?
Posted by: pbaptist - 03 February 2011 21:55:05
He oystein
There are two different productionnumbers mentioned in books. 135 and around 80.
The last is the most logical, but if you conseder the looks of the car it would be hard to beleive that only 22% have survived.
Maybe the 80 cars is all the cars D&S made, so inclusive the ca 15 DKW Monza's build.
Patrick
Posted by: matara - 10 February 2011 23:27:10
Looks like 2 are off to West Coast US from BBT in Belgium:-
[img]https://blog.bbt4vw.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/dannenhauer_001-300x200.jpg[/img]
[img]https://blog.bbt4vw.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/dannenhauer_002-300x200.jpg[/img]
Lots more pics here
[url=https://blog.bbt4vw.com/2011/02/09/dannenhauer-stauss/]https://blog.bbt4vw.com/2011/02/09/dannenhauer-stauss/[/url]
Posted by: SplitPersonality - 11 February 2011 10:27:23
Two in the same container?
I guess the risk-asessment for transatlantic ocean freight did not take the rarity and survival rate into account...
Posted by: YanRami - 20 April 2011 17:19:34
The unrestored terracota red car with grey patches of primer was the car of Randy in the USA, an avid VW enthusiasts who owned numerous cars in the 80ies, and was great fun to know.
Posted by: pbaptist - 06 June 2011 21:21:07
Here is a picture of the D&S Hardtop coupe that was hidden in a barn in Oregon for the last 38 years.
[img]https://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/814083.jpg[/img]
Posted by: zelensis61 - 07 June 2011 20:51:23
Thanks for sharing Patrick. I think the new owner will be happy. Does it stay in the US?
Posted by: pbaptist - 08 August 2011 22:30:30
After the find of the D&S coupe, it was time to update the overview of existing D&S cars.
I now also added the repro from Belgium and the hack-up body in germnay
[img]https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-75IamQbzwuY/TkBGhEW5fWI/AAAAAAAABNQ/nOHt03aOqdo/s720/Dannenhauer%252520overview%25257E2.jpg[/img]
Posted by: AW - 10 August 2011 16:50:15
Intresting you have AB CW 505 as a museum car. here it is in black in the U/K in the 90s [ATTACH]6238[/Attach]
Posted by: AW - 15 August 2011 18:14:48
Found a shot of the motor Andy W [ATTACH]6264[/Attach]
Posted by: pbaptist - 17 August 2013 11:34:28
It is a long time since I posted here.
My activities for the Dannenhauer are moved to facebook were I run the Dannenhauer and stauss fanpage
[url=https://www.facebook.com/pages/Dannenhauer-Stauss-fanpage/350667228294743]https://www.facebook.com/pages/Dannenhauer-Stauss-fanpage/350667228294743[/url]
here you can find new stories and pictures, like pictures of the Carmel Concours on the Avenue 2013 were two Dannenhauers were present.
[img]https://sphotos-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/1157407_677091445652318_314432635_n.jpg[/img]
Patrick
Posted by: pre67vw - 16 July 2021 13:55:16
Unfortunately the photos attached above no longer show because they come from an 'insecure' site (no https) So I've added a screen shot here.
[attach]9527[/attach]